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Re:"About half of Bandcamp was laid off today" by hipadev23 on Monday October 16, 2023 @07:22PM (#37908046)
Why did they need 118 employees to host mp3s and facilitate digital transactions?
Re:"About half of Bandcamp was laid off today" by sp332 on Monday October 16, 2023 @07:30PM (#37908098)
Support for hundreds of thousands of bands and their bank payouts, and millions of customers. (They also sell vinyl, CDs, cassettes, and t-shirts.)
Re:"About half of Bandcamp was laid off today" by armini on Monday October 16, 2023 @07:39PM (#37908163)
Why can't creators just earn money for their music? Why do they need to run ecom businesses? Kuky has 5 people & we allow creators to get paid in less then 3 minutes by their fans.
Re:"About half of Bandcamp was laid off today" by vosper on Monday October 16, 2023 @07:42PM (#37908187)
How is your business that you plugged different from Bandcamp, apart from being smaller? Sounds like you're both in the same business?
Re:"About half of Bandcamp was laid off today" by armini on Monday October 16, 2023 @08:09PM (#37908417)
our platform facilitates micro transactions with minimal fees because we take away the bank burden as much as possible. We focus on the creators, as long as they create great content people will reward them. platforms turn to crap when people find the need to sell other things. why should i sit through amazing youtube content only to be sold nordvpn? surely the community can do better with micros transactions.
Re:"About half of Bandcamp was laid off today" by solardev on Monday October 16, 2023 @08:44PM (#37908764)
Kinda like Patreon?
Re:"About half of Bandcamp was laid off today" by ruined on Monday October 16, 2023 @07:42PM (#37908183)
bandcamp is an ecom provider. it is their core product.

edit: your product showed me a loading spinner and then crashed, so. not sure what you think you're doing

Re:"About half of Bandcamp was laid off today" by solardev on Monday October 16, 2023 @07:44PM (#37908201)
What does your app do? I don't get it. (Read the website and still don't get it)
Re:"About half of Bandcamp was laid off today" by armini on Monday October 16, 2023 @09:50PM (#37909417)
We’ve built a micro transaction engine that helps reconcile payments really quickly & cheaply. This means that creators from anywhere around the world can create amazing content & reward each other instead of having to sell merchandise. We’ve tested the model with two labels so far & we’ve seen it even promotes collaboration “can I pay you for this tune to remind in my track”. This could never happen on any other platform & we think it’s something special.
Re:"About half of Bandcamp was laid off today" by alisson_dover on Monday October 16, 2023 @07:44PM (#37908202)
Because it's a different business? No one needs to run anything. Bandcamp offers an easy way for musicians to have a fairly customizable online presence with a flexible pricing model, a merch store, and, importantly, plug into a larger platform's discoverability mechanism.
Re:"About half of Bandcamp was laid off today" by armini on Monday October 16, 2023 @08:11PM (#37908445)
yeah but when i talk to artists, they tell me they love the process of creating music. they don't have the money or interest for procurement, warehousing or customer support. They just want feedback on their new beat...
Re:"About half of Bandcamp was laid off today" by Alupis on Monday October 16, 2023 @08:27PM (#37908594)
Every band is eventually faced with making a tough decision:

1) Do it for the love of the music.

2) Become a business.

Some bands are lucky enough to do both - not most. Survivorship Bias is key here, and the overwhelming majority of bands do not make any money or perhaps even lose money chasing their passion.

"Just getting feedback" is cool when you're in it for the love of music. For the rest - you do need a way to market yourself, sell merchandise, promote your next show, sell downloads or CD's, etc.

Re:"About half of Bandcamp was laid off today" by alisson_dover on Monday October 16, 2023 @11:24PM (#37910189)
Even then, I think Bandcamp fills the niche for musicians who want to continue doing it for the love of music and want to better serve their community. E.g. they can offer downloadable lossless music for free.
Re:"About half of Bandcamp was laid off today" by harimau777 on Monday October 16, 2023 @08:21PM (#37908535)
I think that's probably why they use Bandcamp. They aren't interested in setting up their own ecommerce presence.
Re:"About half of Bandcamp was laid off today" by paulddraper on Monday October 16, 2023 @08:23PM (#37908552)
That's the idea of Bandcamp.

Get the benefits of those things without doing them yourself.

Re:"About half of Bandcamp was laid off today" by alisson_dover on Monday October 16, 2023 @10:49PM (#37909928)
The vast majority of profession artists I know and love have a Bandcamp account. Maybe in the early stages musicians just want feedback on their new "beat". However, at some point they want to have a professional looking profile with releases that they can sell, with a community they can reach out to, merchandise they can roll out at their own pace, etc etc.

You are probably talking to very early stage musicians who would enjoy using Soundcloud over Bandcamp for feedback reasons.

Re:"About half of Bandcamp was laid off today" by Fezzik on Monday October 16, 2023 @07:51PM (#37908266)
I mean, the big difference is I have used bandcamp and it took me about 5 seconds to figure out how it worked… I read all your info pages and I have no idea what Kuky is. The stock images with all the latin words make it seem like it is just a scam.
Re:"About half of Bandcamp was laid off today" by armini on Monday October 16, 2023 @08:11PM (#37908449)
yeah fair point, we need to do better with the site... thanks for the feedback..
Re:"About half of Bandcamp was laid off today" by Gracana on Monday October 16, 2023 @10:04PM (#37909546)
FYI the only kuky.com result for "kuky" on DDG is "web.kuky.com" which loads a "reward money" dialog that errors on submission and can't be closed.
Re:"About half of Bandcamp was laid off today" by tracerbulletx on Monday October 16, 2023 @07:48PM (#37908246)
Why do you think it's a good thing for companies to run at maximum efficiency? Have some slack, spread the knowledge around, let people go on vacation, have a bench, have replacements. Have a world that's more than capital owners and slaves.
Re:"About half of Bandcamp was laid off today" by hipadev23 on Monday October 16, 2023 @07:50PM (#37908262)
It's a SaaS. That's a 10 person team at maximum efficiency. They could be a lifestyle business with 30. They've still got 50% more headcount to reduce.
Re:"About half of Bandcamp was laid off today" by tracerbulletx on Monday October 16, 2023 @07:55PM (#37908300)
100 person companies are really small. Some local car dealerships have 100 employees. I think these layoffs are more about redundancy at the buyer than the people not being useful at Bandcamp probably.
Re:"About half of Bandcamp was laid off today" by heleninboodler on Tuesday October 17, 2023 @07:46AM (#37913481)
> It's a SaaS. That's a 10 person team at maximum efficiency.

This kind of sounds like you think every SaaS business has the same staffing requirements. That's a very strange claim.

Re:"About half of Bandcamp was laid off today" by kristopolous on Monday October 16, 2023 @08:04PM (#37908380)
A global, international marketplace with about 100,000 sales totalling $3.5 million day. If you can swing a couple hundred petabytes from your living room then go ahead.
Re:"About half of Bandcamp was laid off today" by bastawhiz on Monday October 16, 2023 @08:47PM (#37908783)
Sounds like you can do it better. Why not whip something up this weekend? Seems like an opportune time to compete with Bandcamp.