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Re:Microsoft $69B deal to buy Call of Duty maker Activision ... by chongli on Saturday October 14, 2023 @10:18PM (#37886278)
That may be the case but other genres, such as shooters (first and third person) have found ways to get around it. Fortnite, for example, has nowhere near this issue whereas Quake 3 is plagued by it. The 100-player battle royale structure of Fortnite is one mechanism I think helps to mitigate the problem of overwhelming skill gap.

This kind of thing hasn't really been tested in RTS games, which usually focus on 1v1s.

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Re:Microsoft $69B deal to buy Call of Duty maker Activision ... by ThatPlayer on Sunday October 15, 2023 @01:59AM (#37887277)
Fortnite's solution has been bots, which is not very popular because plenty of people think they're above bots. Or think that bots cheat (which is true in Starcraft). Or in fighting games, they don't play like humans so you end up learning bad habits.
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Re:Microsoft $69B deal to buy Call of Duty maker Activision ... by 8n4vidtmkvmk on Sunday October 15, 2023 @02:22AM (#37887397)
They didn't cheat on sc2 did they? They did in sc1. But regardless, with the breakthroughs in AI recently, I don't think they'd need to cheat on a hypothetical sc3.
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Re:Microsoft $69B deal to buy Call of Duty maker Activision ... by ThatPlayer on Sunday October 15, 2023 @02:36AM (#37887460)
I know in SC2 the harder AI would get free resources.

I think "playing like a human" can still be an issue depending on the game. Until people want to play against AIs, there's not a lot of work put into making AIs human-like rather than just AI players.

Also there still Starcraft 1 AI tournaments which are interesting. https://youtu.be/gqggsFpTAt8

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Re:Microsoft $69B deal to buy Call of Duty maker Activision ... by erhaetherth on Sunday October 15, 2023 @05:49PM (#37893722)
Probably doesn't need to be perfectly human-like. If you want human-like, play against humans :-) Just keep it as fair as possible with the AIs.

I didn't know they were still doing SC1 AIs, I always wanted to make one but never quite figured out how to get started.

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Re:Microsoft $69B deal to buy Call of Duty maker Activision ... by hydrok9 on Monday October 16, 2023 @01:29PM (#37903234)
The big issue with bots is that they are almost never good enough to beat a moderately skilled and muscle-memoried human player. People who try to use them to learn don't end up being any better than a n00b, as it were.
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