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Re:Tainting the CSAM client-side scanning database by flkenosad on Friday October 13, 2023 @01:12PM (#37872948)
Wow what a mess. At what point do we move on from copyright laws? Or more broadly intellectual property, in general. Even the words "intellectual property" sound ridiculous together when you think about it.
Re:Tainting the CSAM client-side scanning database by novok on Friday October 13, 2023 @01:23PM (#37873103)
If you think deeper about it, the general concept of property is similarly ridiculous too. An arbitrary piece of land being ‘owned’ is similarly arbitrary human social concept, enforced by law and a registry
Re:Tainting the CSAM client-side scanning database by j16sdiz on Friday October 13, 2023 @01:33PM (#37873209)
Music have no registry. It is much worse than land property
Re:Tainting the CSAM client-side scanning database by flkenosad on Friday October 13, 2023 @02:03PM (#37873565)
Maybe true, but one step at a time IMO.
Re:Tainting the CSAM client-side scanning database by rjbwork on Friday October 13, 2023 @02:46PM (#37874055)
If you're interested in reading about this sort of thing, some fun keywords are "enclosures", "Lockean Priviso", and "monopoly on violence".
Re:Tainting the CSAM client-side scanning database by kelnos on Friday October 13, 2023 @06:28PM (#37876316)
I agree that it's an arbitrary social concept, but it's not ridiculous at all, deeper thought or not. I think it's completely reasonable to expect that my house is my house, and others aren't allowed to enter it or live on my property without my consent. If you think we all should live commune-style and have no property or physical privacy, that's certainly fair for you to believe, but the vast majority of the people in the world would staunchly disagree with you... hence the concept of property ownership.

Certainly there are issues with how we've implemented property ownership, but I don't think the concept itself is inherently flawed or ridiculous.

Re:Tainting the CSAM client-side scanning database by opan on Friday October 13, 2023 @01:46PM (#37873381)
>Even the words "intellectual property" sound ridiculous together when you think about it.

For this reason, many would suggest not using it. It's a vague way of combining the separate issues of copyright, patents, and trademarks. It also illegitimately tries to equate those things to property, which changes how many feel about it.

https://www.gnu.org/philosophy/words-to-avoid.html#Intellect...

Re:Tainting the CSAM client-side scanning database by flkenosad on Friday October 13, 2023 @02:19PM (#37873742)
Thank you for that information. In the future I'll direct my criticism more precisely. To clarify, it is mainly copyright laws I have a bone to pick with. Trademarks make sense. Patent laws sort of make sense in some circumstances, less in others.
Re:Tainting the CSAM client-side scanning database by timschmidt on Friday October 13, 2023 @08:15PM (#37876969)
As we get closer to Star Trek replicators, patent law begins to look similarly inapplicable.