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Re:Apple Patents Suggest Future AirPods Could Monitor Biosig... by rsync on Tuesday October 10, 2023 @04:25PM (#37836992)
Eavesdropping on the private thoughts of another is an abomination.

This is a red line which must not be crossed.

Re:Apple Patents Suggest Future AirPods Could Monitor Biosig... by izzydata on Tuesday October 10, 2023 @04:28PM (#37837042)
Even the most sophisticated purpose made medical research tools can't do this in a way that you are imagining. If somehow Apple accomplished mind reading devices in their spare time I'd be so amazed that I'd actually not even care how invasive it is. At least for awhile.
Re:Apple Patents Suggest Future AirPods Could Monitor Biosig... by robertlagrant on Tuesday October 10, 2023 @04:26PM (#37837004)
Thankfully we're nowhere near crossing it.
Re:Apple Patents Suggest Future AirPods Could Monitor Biosig... by blocked-by-cf on Tuesday October 10, 2023 @04:36PM (#37837133)
The davos types don't think "brain transparency" is so farfetched.

"You may be surprised to learn this is a future that has already arrived."

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hfqD5aW0X5U

Re:Apple Patents Suggest Future AirPods Could Monitor Biosig... by robertlagrant on Wednesday October 11, 2023 @04:01AM (#37842025)
I don't think it's valuable to learn what different groups believe and rely on that for your own understanding.

To the original poster: what of your own direct experience and knowledge has convinced you that this is an imminent threat?

Re:Apple Patents Suggest Future AirPods Could Monitor Biosig... by jonfw on Tuesday October 10, 2023 @04:33PM (#37837096)
patents don't mean something is remotely close to existing. A lot of patents are purely speculative, to either fish for future licensing revenues or to protect the ability to enter a market in the future
Re:Apple Patents Suggest Future AirPods Could Monitor Biosig... by behnamoh on Tuesday October 10, 2023 @04:30PM (#37837060)
Trolling on HN is an abomination.
Re:Apple Patents Suggest Future AirPods Could Monitor Biosig... by mepian on Tuesday October 10, 2023 @04:29PM (#37837047)
No one is going to eavesdrop on your thoughts without drilling a hole through your skull.
Re:Apple Patents Suggest Future AirPods Could Monitor Biosig... by GrinningFool on Tuesday October 10, 2023 @05:13PM (#37837587)
Even then, they'd have to hold their ear right up to the hole to have a chance of hearing the thoughts.
Re:Apple Patents Suggest Future AirPods Could Monitor Biosig... by codr7 on Tuesday October 10, 2023 @05:14PM (#37837604)
How can you be so sure?

Maybe not today, but with better sensors and neural networks I'd say anything is possible.

That's not what's bothering me most in the long run though. Because there's no way in hell they'll be able to resist the temptation to manipulate our brains directly if they ever develop the capability.

Technology is neither good nor bad, but it enables better and worse with every iteration.

Re:Apple Patents Suggest Future AirPods Could Monitor Biosig... by mepian on Tuesday October 10, 2023 @07:42PM (#37839196)
>How can you be so sure?

I studied biomedical engineering, it's really difficult to get anything useful out of a human brain non-invasively even if you are Apple. Neural networks are not magic, they can't do much with such low SNR.

Re:Apple Patents Suggest Future AirPods Could Monitor Biosig... by codr7 on Wednesday October 18, 2023 @06:38AM (#37926916)
Yes, I understand; but no one would have expected GPT4 10 years ago, technological evolution is exponential, not linear.
Re:Apple Patents Suggest Future AirPods Could Monitor Biosig... by dragonwriter on Wednesday October 18, 2023 @06:50AM (#37926982)
LLMs are more an exanoke of punctuated that smooth, even exponential, when looked at vs. 10 years ago, but there’s a difference between no one would expect b/c we don’t know how, and there being a clear articulable reason why not.
Re:Apple Patents Suggest Future AirPods Could Monitor Biosig... by fitzroy on Tuesday October 10, 2023 @04:43PM (#37837233)
When my AirPods actually stay in my ears, I'll worry.
Re:Apple Patents Suggest Future AirPods Could Monitor Biosig... by factorialboy on Tuesday October 10, 2023 @06:01PM (#37838214)
It's an Apple related news.

If Google, for example, had announced this, the median response would be closer to your take.

Re:Apple Patents Suggest Future AirPods Could Monitor Biosig... by astrange on Tuesday October 10, 2023 @07:53PM (#37839274)
Even EEG headbands don't actually do this; they mostly measure how tight you're holding your face muscles.