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Re:A global climate solution – if it can get past conspiracy... by josephcsible on Monday October 09, 2023 @05:59PM (#37825995)
There are good and bad variants of the 15-minute cities proposals. The good variants leave driving alone, but make walking and transit better than driving is today, resulting in people freely choosing not to drive. The bad variants intentionally make driving worse or even ban it altogether.
Re:A global climate solution – if it can get past conspiracy... by uoaei on Monday October 09, 2023 @06:31PM (#37826270)
Due to the zero-sum nature of physical space (only one thing can occupy a space at one time) driving will have to become more unpleasant.

Somehow there are entire countries who have managed to maintain walkability and humble drivers so they take more care around other modes of transit. It's really not complicated except for the stubbornness inherent in American and adjacent cultures.

Re:A global climate solution – if it can get past conspiracy... by airza on Monday October 09, 2023 @11:36PM (#37828259)
You can’t make walking and transit better without making driving worse. It can be better for the people who still choose to drive, but shoving a 2 lane road with a 55mph speed limit through a pedestrianized neighborhood is just not possible.
Re:A global climate solution – if it can get past conspiracy... by Doxin on Tuesday October 10, 2023 @03:46AM (#37829510)
> You can’t make walking and transit better without making driving worse.

I don't think I agree on this one. Persuading more people to leave the car at home most of the time makes the times when you do drive much more pleasant.

Case in point: The Netherlands, Notorious for being walking and cycling paradise, is actually quite nice to drive in.

Re:A global climate solution – if it can get past conspiracy... by mitchbob on Tuesday October 10, 2023 @04:15PM (#37836886)
One of the many excellent videos on the Not Just Bikes YouTube channel [1] shows how the Netherlands has done it.

[1] https://youtu.be/d8RRE2rDw4k?si=ZwrhmsdE_BUooY24

Re:A global climate solution – if it can get past conspiracy... by dharmab on Monday October 09, 2023 @11:57PM (#37828376)
I don't see how you can make a 15 minute city and have street parking, for example.