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Re:Medieval staircases were NOT built going clockwise for th... by redwall_hp on Monday October 09, 2023 @01:58PM (#37823227)
I'll do one better: they weren't built clockwise, as clocks were not available. They were built reverse-widdershins or sunwise.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Widdershins

Re:Medieval staircases were NOT built going clockwise for th... by INTPenis on Monday October 09, 2023 @02:32PM (#37823602)
I love the word sunwise. In Swedish it's "medsols" and "motsols", sunwise and counter-sunwise respectively.

And speaking of, let's start another myth. Swedes always dance around the christmas tree or maypole sunwise because it's an ancient dance to evoke the sun after months of darkness.

Re:Medieval staircases were NOT built going clockwise for th... by kwhitefoot on Monday October 09, 2023 @03:36PM (#37824434)
I thought the pole and dance in Sweden was at midsummer. In England it's on Mayday.
Re:Medieval staircases were NOT built going clockwise for th... by INTPenis on Monday October 09, 2023 @03:51PM (#37824645)
I call it a maypole to relate to foreigners. What would you call the pole? It's actually called a midsommarstång, which means midsummerspole...
Re:Medieval staircases were NOT built going clockwise for th... by kwhitefoot on Wednesday October 11, 2023 @03:18PM (#37849029)
I see the point, it just clear to me that you were referring to midsummer. To me as an old Englishman a Maypole means the old celebration of spring on Mayday.
Re:Medieval staircases were NOT built going clockwise for th... by kwyjibo1230 on Monday October 09, 2023 @02:24PM (#37823498)
Wow, so Widdershins is not just a made-up word from Terry Pratchett's Discworld series!
Re:Medieval staircases were NOT built going clockwise for th... by redwall_hp on Monday October 09, 2023 @02:42PM (#37823721)
I'll admit that Discworld is the first place I heard it. It's a perfect example of the sort of idiom authors should think about though, rather than using overly modern terms.
Re:Medieval staircases were NOT built going clockwise for th... by Tagbert on Monday October 09, 2023 @02:31PM (#37823584)
It seems it goes back a little further than that.

> probably from Middle Low German weddersinnes, literally "against the way"

https://www.etymonline.com/word/widdershins#etymonline_v_799...

Basically, this is NOT the way.

Re:Medieval staircases were NOT built going clockwise for th... by headstorm on Monday October 09, 2023 @02:32PM (#37823590)
Deosil is the counterpart which means reverse-widdershins or sunwise, mentioned in your link.
Re:Medieval staircases were NOT built going clockwise for th... by gowld on Monday October 09, 2023 @02:36PM (#37823647)
'Tis but thy name that is my enemy;

Thou art thyself, though not "clockwise".

What's "clockwise"? It is nor hand, nor pen-

dulum, nor face, nor any other part

Belonging to a clock. O, be some other name!

What's in a name? That which we call a rose

By any other name would smell as sweet;

So "Widdershins" would, were it not "Widdershins" call'd,

Retain that dear perfection which he owes

Without that title. Widdershins, doff thy name,

And for that name which is no part of thee

Take all my turns.

Re:Medieval staircases were NOT built going clockwise for th... by zczc on Tuesday October 10, 2023 @02:50AM (#37829210)
And clock face mimics the sundial, therefore clockwise is sunwise