Re:New study definitively confirms gulf stream weakening
by bloopernova on Sunday October 08, 2023 @06:12PM
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Don't ever apologize for caring. I didn't think it was a rant really.
Re:New study definitively confirms gulf stream weakening
by M95D on Monday October 09, 2023 @02:33AM
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> allowing for reforestation that would [...] sequester as much carbon as we've released since the Industrial Revolution.
That's a common mistake. It won't. Plants sequester carbon only while they are alive. When they die, the carbon returns to the atmosphere. A forest, even with that size won't make a significant impact on carbon stored compared to how much oil and coal we burned. The only solution would be to re-create the carbon deposits, but that can't happen anymore.
Re:New study definitively confirms gulf stream weakening
by ok_dad on Monday October 09, 2023 @03:59AM
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The oil we mined from the ground in about 150 years took hundreds of millions of years to form and from what I recall from the subject, it happened in a time where bacteria and fungus didn’t exist to release that carbon from downed trees Abe plants or whatever. The only way to sequester carbon now would be to spend more energy than was released (putting those bonds back together is hard) from our oil use to create something like inorganic carbon bricks we could try and bury underground somewhere that bacteria and fungus cannot reach.
Good luck to us, I’m not confident we can do it. I’m hoping we can though, I have a toddler. I hate climate deniers, to me they are trying to make my son’s life worse and worse because they don’t want their life to be lesser than they expected.
Overshoot encompasses many aspects, including biodiversity loss, deforestation, pollution, resource depletion, and much more.
The fundamental issue lies in capitalism and the financial system, with its embedded need for constant growth. Almost all money in the system is created through loans by banks, and there is an interest on that money that must be paid, typically around 3% or so, and this interest compounds exponentially.
As a result, our growth is exponential, and there is no sign of it slowing down. Our GDP doubles every 30 years, while our finite natural environment is the first to be sacrificed in an attempt to service one's debts.
We don't see any real debate about degrowth, reforestation, equity, food system, financial system ... no real progress on any front.
Animal species have witnessed a 70% decline in just the last 50 years. How long until our insect and pollinator populations collapse? How long until forests lose their ability to generate rain completely? How long until oceans are devoid of fish or sharks (with 90% already gone), leading to the collapse of the entire marine ecosystem? How long until major crop failures occur?
When hunger and water shortages become widespread, police will give up, wars and slavery and hordes of cannibals will become our daily grim reality. There have been collapses of civilizations before, but there has never been a total collapse of the biosphere as well. So I too worry for the future of today's young.
Sorry for the rant.