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Re:CD Projekt Red devs unionise after its third round of lay... by ricardobeat on Sunday October 08, 2023 @08:34AM (#37809902)
One would expect them to be drowning in cash after the success of The Witcher, and Cyberpunk 2077, 80M+ copies sold. That’s billions of dollars in revenue.

Even a headcount of 1000 at SV tech salary levels (which Poland definitely does not have) would barely make a dent. Why cut costs now?

Re:CD Projekt Red devs unionise after its third round of lay... by zolbrek on Sunday October 08, 2023 @08:44AM (#37809953)
The CEO said in July that they were overstaffed.

https://www.cdprojekt.com/en/media/news/cd-projekt-red-organ...

Re:CD Projekt Red devs unionise after its third round of lay... by icegreentea2 on Sunday October 08, 2023 @12:49PM (#37812107)
Yes. Staring at their financial statements, it looks like revenue is down in 2023. They're probably seeing a faster taper (or smaller revenue bumps from CP fixes) in sales than expected.

The wording in the statement really sounds like the typical project based employment thing. Seems like their pipeline got out of wack (maybe the CP fixes and updates?), and they're downgrading sales estimates on future projects, and suddenly you have less slack than before.

Sucks. Wish the best for the devs (and their new union) and the company.

Re:CD Projekt Red devs unionise after its third round of lay... by snickerbockers on Sunday October 08, 2023 @08:48AM (#37809988)
Witcher hasn't had a new game in almost a decade (unless you count gwent which i don't) and cyberpunk 2077 was a complete joke until the trigger OVA (and even then it's still extremely broken).
Re:CD Projekt Red devs unionise after its third round of lay... by morjom on Sunday October 08, 2023 @09:12AM (#37810159)
Check the game again, they updated the game recently that revamped and added a lot of features (Cop AI, vehicular combat, clothes arent armor) that should've been there at the start.
Re:CD Projekt Red devs unionise after its third round of lay... by Der_Einzige on Sunday October 08, 2023 @09:22AM (#37810213)
The 2.0 update is extremely overhyped. Even with all of that, it’s still an extremely dull and clunky game. It’s trying to be GTA: Cyberpunk but honestly it’s closer to watchdogs and I had more fun with the watchdogs games.
Re:CD Projekt Red devs unionise after its third round of lay... by dvngnt_ on Sunday October 08, 2023 @10:00AM (#37810507)
it's far cry mixed with deus ex.

it's a great game from that perspective and side missions are great in expansion

Re:CD Projekt Red devs unionise after its third round of lay... by spoiler on Sunday October 08, 2023 @11:49AM (#37811537)
I'm replaying with 2.0, and it's honestly a much smoother experience. I'm not sure if it's over hyped. It was small bits here and there, but it was a very holistic overhaul of the game in the end.

(FWIW, I'm someone with around a hundred hours in the game)

Re:CD Projekt Red devs unionise after its third round of lay... by rarafael on Sunday October 08, 2023 @12:03PM (#37811654)
even before 2.0 the game was pretty playable and decent, but it's far from everything they promised. RPG aspects are put aside and when I played I felt my impact on the story was less than that of Skyrim missions. The main quest in particular is basically resumed to one option in the end, a lot of side quests are like that, and the factions are very clear "endless enemy" burden. It's not a bad game, but it's a bad role-playing game
Re:CD Projekt Red devs unionise after its third round of lay... by spoiler on Monday October 09, 2023 @11:38AM (#37821535)
The main story has multiple endings, and also a hidden ending. It's not really that single choice. Also, there's all the characters and how they interact has some impact on the end story depending. Some side quests can similarly become available or unavailable depending on some choices. There's also the relationship with Johnny, etc. The roleplaying aspect apparently improved in Phantom Liberty. But I wouldn't say CP is worse than Skyrim! Both have their moments

I agree with you on the point it was decent even before 2.0 and that there's missing features. If you're on PC though, there's a lot of mechanics added in by mods too!

Re:CD Projekt Red devs unionise after its third round of lay... by ToucanLoucan on Sunday October 08, 2023 @12:06PM (#37811681)
Did they fix that bug where Jackie after the medivac takes the girl in the intro would walk dead ass through a wall and send all the physics objects flying?
Re:CD Projekt Red devs unionise after its third round of lay... by lakomen on Sunday October 08, 2023 @03:45PM (#37813778)
2.0 level scaling just removed all the fun and point of leveling up.

Everything is the same difficulty if you're level 1, 15 or 50.

Re:CD Projekt Red devs unionise after its third round of lay... by snickerbockers on Tuesday October 10, 2023 @08:50PM (#37839681)
idk about 2.0 but i tried it out last year when the anime released and there was still extreme pop-in artifacts, with NPCs walking directly in front of me with their low-polygon models on.
Re:CD Projekt Red devs unionise after its third round of lay... by ricardobeat on Sunday October 08, 2023 @03:16PM (#37813538)
Doesn't change the fact they sold over 80 million copies, you can do the math.
Re:CD Projekt Red devs unionise after its third round of lay... by snickerbockers on Tuesday October 10, 2023 @08:52PM (#37839695)
yeah they sold 80 million copies three years ago, and now instead of being three years into developing The Next Big Thing they're struggling to catch up to where they were supposed to be in 2020. You don't need a PHD in mathematics to see how that would lead to them losing money.
Re:CD Projekt Red devs unionise after its third round of lay... by epilys on Sunday October 08, 2023 @11:22AM (#37811270)
The usual suspect: it's publicly traded.
Re:CD Projekt Red devs unionise after its third round of lay... by spacemadness on Sunday October 08, 2023 @12:14PM (#37811742)
Where all investors demand free money from the Fed and a vastly underpaid and overworked workforce.
Re:CD Projekt Red devs unionise after its third round of lay... by meepmorp on Sunday October 08, 2023 @12:50PM (#37812128)
In this case they're on the Warsaw stock exchange, so I'm not sure how much the Fed turning off the cash hose enters into things.
Re:CD Projekt Red devs unionise after its third round of lay... by gruez on Sunday October 08, 2023 @01:08PM (#37812333)
Public companies don't get "free money from the Fed" in any meaningful sense. The closest thing that has any bearing in reality is that money printing makes interest rates lower, which means they can borrow more with the same amount of money and raise money from investors easier.
Re:CD Projekt Red devs unionise after its third round of lay... by gruez on Sunday October 08, 2023 @01:12PM (#37812390)
Happens all the time in non-publicly traded companies as well, eg. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Telltale_Games

>[...] but the rate of production created a "crunch time" culture behind the scenes, leaving poor company morale [...]

>Internal restructuring led to a layoff of 25% of the company's staff in November 2017 [...]

>In the midst of releasing The Walking Dead: The Final Season, the company was forced to initiate a "majority studio closure" after their last investor had pulled out of funding. Telltale announced on September 21, 2018, that it had let go of all but 25 of its staff as part of this closure [...]