Internet traffic impacted in Palestine after attacks. Some ISPs are offline

Re:Internet traffic impacted in Palestine after attacks. Som... by eurleif on Saturday October 07, 2023 @09:35PM (#37807089)

>We will turn Gaza into a deserted island.

Looks like this may be a fake quote. Al Jazeera[0] is the only source I can find. Meanwhile, Politico[1] and other sources have a markedly different quote: "All the places where Hamas hides, operates from — we will turn them into cities of ruins."

[0] https://www.aljazeera.com/news/2023/10/7/world-is-watching-f...

[1] https://www.politico.eu/article/israels-netanyahu-vows-might...

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Re:Internet traffic impacted in Palestine after attacks. Som... by oa335 on Saturday October 07, 2023 @09:48PM (#37807156)

“I'm telling the people of Gaza: get out of there now, because we're about to act everywhere with all our force," from Agence France-Presse, via Barrons.

https://www.barrons.com/news/israel-pm-vows-to-turn-gaza-s-h...

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Re:Internet traffic impacted in Palestine after attacks. Som... by eurleif on Saturday October 07, 2023 @09:52PM (#37807179)

Is not: "We will turn Gaza into a deserted island." Indeed, the corresponding part of the quote as Barron's has it is consistent with Politico's version, not with Al Jazeera's: "All the places in which Hamas is based, in this city of evil, all the places Hamas is hiding in, acting from -- we'll turn them into rubble."

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Re:Internet traffic impacted in Palestine after attacks. Som... by riku_iki on Saturday October 07, 2023 @09:56PM (#37807198)

there are many videos of Netanyahu speach today, including afp youtube channel, I couldn't locate this phrase.

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Re:Internet traffic impacted in Palestine after attacks. Som... by edanm on Sunday October 08, 2023 @02:44AM (#37808383)

This is kind of interesting. Netanyahu used an expression that I wasn't sure about, עיי חורבות, which actually sounds a lot like "Destroyed islands". I looked it up and apparently it just means "ruins", but I wonder if the first translation just misheard/misunderstood what he said.

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Re:Internet traffic impacted in Palestine after attacks. Som... by user1271772 on Saturday October 14, 2023 @12:14PM (#37881681)

The phrase "eeyay horavot" can mean "destroyed islands" or "destroyed villages", but you have typed עיי חורבות which means "destroyed villages", not איי חורבות which means "destroyed islands".

Basically if you're listening to the audio, you could interpret it either way, and the difference would only arise when you try to write it down or read it, because the "eeyay" for "island" and the other "eeyay" are homophones.

Since "eeyay horavot" is a standard compound-word that is transliterated in the Bible using עיי instead of איי the speaker likely meant "destroyed villages" instead of "destroyed islands".

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Re:Internet traffic impacted in Palestine after attacks. Som... by tmnvix on Saturday October 07, 2023 @09:12PM (#37806966)

How do they leave?

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Re:Internet traffic impacted in Palestine after attacks. Som... by bigbillheck on Saturday October 07, 2023 @09:40PM (#37807108)

The same way we all do, on a journey from which there is no return.

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Re:Internet traffic impacted in Palestine after attacks. Som... by chatmasta on Saturday October 07, 2023 @09:28PM (#37807046)

Apparently there are designated areas where IDF instructed them to go. But that's all I could glean based on a brief sentence in a CNN article that didn't elaborate on the details. It's certainly a good question...

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Re:Internet traffic impacted in Palestine after attacks. Som... by 2OEH8eoCRo0 on Saturday October 07, 2023 @10:08PM (#37807241)

https://nitter.net/Osinttechnical/status/1710794984322916572

> The IDF has issued specific instructions for residents in 7 areas of the Gaza Strip to evacuate to predetermined points. Targeted text messages are also outgoing.

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Re:Internet traffic impacted in Palestine after attacks. Som... by oa335 on Saturday October 07, 2023 @09:13PM (#37806977)

They can’t, Israel imposes a blockade on their movement across the borders.

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Re:Internet traffic impacted in Palestine after attacks. Som... by sdossick on Saturday October 07, 2023 @09:21PM (#37807016)

So does Egypt. It's not only the Israelis who are afraid of Hamas and Islamic Jihad.

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Re:Internet traffic impacted in Palestine after attacks. Som... by elashri on Saturday October 07, 2023 @10:34PM (#37807402)

As an Egyptian, we are not afraid of Palestinians moving to Sinai [1]. Neither they want to leave their lands so that they will lose it forever. The last time they were told to leave it for a little then come back was in 1948. Will, they are waiting until now.

Hint: I welcome the downvotes. HN is majority US members who are historically (The Majority) pro Israeli point of view of everything.

[1] Maybe the regime is (but people in the Middle East are ruled by dictators who do not represent people view either if they are Iran, Egypt or others)

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Re:Internet traffic impacted in Palestine after attacks. Som... by tguvot on Saturday October 07, 2023 @11:14PM (#37807587)

i do remember egypt been rather unhappy when all of sudden weapons started to flow from gaza back to sinai to isis/muslim brotherhood/etc. and some personal as well

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Re:Internet traffic impacted in Palestine after attacks. Som... by stoned on Saturday October 07, 2023 @10:22PM (#37807319)

They’re warning people before targeting buildings https://t.me/englishabuali/12716

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Re:Internet traffic impacted in Palestine after attacks. Som... by riku_iki on Saturday October 07, 2023 @10:26PM (#37807350)

> Edited to remove false quote

looks like your quote is still fake and not supported by reliable source.

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Re:Internet traffic impacted in Palestine after attacks. Som... by oa335 on Saturday October 07, 2023 @10:36PM (#37807407)

It’s in this speech: https://youtu.be/jeZJulgUuD8?si=Yfy2Y4Np3ws9hwjg&t=101

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Re:Internet traffic impacted in Palestine after attacks. Som... by eurleif on Saturday October 07, 2023 @10:38PM (#37807419)

The English subtitle "we will operate forcefully everywhere" has a very different meaning from your quote: "We will target each and every corner of the strip."

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Re:Internet traffic impacted in Palestine after attacks. Som... by oa335 on Saturday October 07, 2023 @10:55PM (#37807506)

What is the difference in the meaning?

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Re:Internet traffic impacted in Palestine after attacks. Som... by eurleif on Saturday October 07, 2023 @11:05PM (#37807552)

"Target each and every corner of the strip" implies the strip as a whole is the target. "Operate forcefully everywhere" merely implies that force will be brought everywhere in the strip against whatever the target may be (from context, Hamas).

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Re:Internet traffic impacted in Palestine after attacks. Som... by riku_iki on Saturday October 07, 2023 @10:40PM (#37807433)

"operate everywhere" and "target each and every corner of the strip" are different citation, also do you speak Jewish or you relied on youtube autotranslate captions with questionable quality?

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Re:Internet traffic impacted in Palestine after attacks. Som... by CaptainNegative on Saturday October 07, 2023 @11:06PM (#37807559)

I speak Hebrew. The direct translation is "we will operate everywhere and with full force".

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Re:Internet traffic impacted in Palestine after attacks. Som... by tguvot on Saturday October 07, 2023 @11:05PM (#37807556)

this is still false quote. i saw him speaking live. he said to get out of the locations that are known to population as hamas/etc compounds, warehouses, etc.

. כל המקומות שהחמאס מסתתר בהם ופועל בתוכם - נהפוך אותם לעיי חורבות. אני אומר לתושבי עזה, צאו משם עכשיו.

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Re:Internet traffic impacted in Palestine after attacks. Som... by botanical on Sunday October 08, 2023 @02:14AM (#37808251)

And go where? Apartheid Israel has them interned with nowhere to go.

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Re:Internet traffic impacted in Palestine after attacks. Som... by koheripbal on Tuesday October 10, 2023 @09:28PM (#37839924)

Gaza borders Egypt and the Mediterranean.

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Re:Internet traffic impacted in Palestine after attacks. Som... by botanical on Tuesday October 10, 2023 @11:11PM (#37840468)

They are blockaded from the sea by Apartheid Israel:

https://www.ochaopt.org/sites/default/files/styles/inline100...

Egypt is allied with the US who give them billions to keep it locked.

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