Re:The Secretive Company That Might End Privacy as We Know It
by jefftk on Saturday October 07, 2023 @06:38AM
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In Europe: no. Training ML systems doesn't require a license.
In the US: we don't know yet. The law is not clear, and there are lots of suits in progress.
Re:The Secretive Company That Might End Privacy as We Know It
by michaelmrose on Saturday October 07, 2023 @01:21PM
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You misunderstand. They copied the literal image from facebooks computers to their own to train with.
Re:The Secretive Company That Might End Privacy as We Know It
by jefftk on Saturday October 07, 2023 @01:31PM
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And that may be permitted under fair use. It is not yet settled law in the US.
Re:The Secretive Company That Might End Privacy as We Know It
by michaelmrose on Saturday October 07, 2023 @02:40PM
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Under what theory would they be granted fair use for commercial use of images illegally acquired from a third party and ultimately jacked from people who they have no business relationship with?
Re:The Secretive Company That Might End Privacy as We Know It
by Anarch157a on Saturday October 07, 2023 @06:23AM
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LinkedIn lost a lawsuit over that subject, which effectively nullifies those terms.
Re:The Secretive Company That Might End Privacy as We Know It
by michaelmrose on Monday October 09, 2023 @03:52PM
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Linkedin lost a case questionably decided by a the single most reversed circuit which is binding in only that circuit, which is liable to be decided differently in another, which will provide impetus for the supreme court to take it up. That decision is in fact in the middle of being ripped up. It is the opposite of decided law.
https://www.socialmediatoday.com/news/LinkedIn-Wins-Latest-C...
It's going to be ultimately decided that violating the TOS to scrape after being told not to is legally questionable and furthermore questionable acquisition further any already ridiculous claim to fair use.
Re:The Secretive Company That Might End Privacy as We Know It
by lll-o-lll on Saturday October 07, 2023 @06:23AM
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> Did they infringe my copyright?
Yes. How are you going to stop them?
Re:The Secretive Company That Might End Privacy as We Know It
by michaelmrose on Saturday October 07, 2023 @06:26AM
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Seems like the logical thing would be for some attorney to do the leg work for a class action lawsuit and ask for essentially all of their money given the number of acts of infringement.
“A lot of people are doing it,” Mr. Ton-That shrugged. “Facebook knows.”
So I own the copyright to the image I uploaded to facebook I licensed it to Facebook they stole it from Facebook. Did they infringe my copyright?