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Re:Productivity has grown faster in Western Europe than in A... by g232089 on Friday October 06, 2023 @08:39AM (#37789962)
>In October the finance ministry, in its annual report on the issue, estimated that in 2018 immigrants from non-Western countries and their descendants drained from public finances a net 31bn kroner ($4.9bn), some 1.4% of GDP. Immigrants from Western countries, by contrast, contributed a net 7bn kroner (see chart).

https://archive.ph/TSsQa#selection-1021.77-1025.92

So yes, it has downsides... The downside of not working at all. (In this comment, I am separating Western and non-Western immigrants, since you mentioned xenophonobes)

Re:Productivity has grown faster in Western Europe than in A... by Scarblac on Friday October 06, 2023 @08:42AM (#37789996)
Contributing to public finances isn't the only thing for which we need people, it's not even the most important thing. We are going to need a lot of people to care for the elderly, people working in construction, etc. Which particular group then does the much higher paying jobs that contribute more taxes is less relevant.
Re:Productivity has grown faster in Western Europe than in A... by kergonath on Friday October 06, 2023 @09:33AM (#37790574)
Also, things like building roads and infrastructure, picking fruits, logistics, etc. The value of these jobs for the society are not commensurate with their wages.
Re:Productivity has grown faster in Western Europe than in A... by pjc50 on Friday October 06, 2023 @09:00AM (#37790207)
> immigrants from non-Western countries and their descendants

Key word "descendants". Are those by any chance children, who were born in the country (therefore are not themselves immigrants) and need to be educated? It seems dishonest to count them as not contributing when they're not old enough to.

Again, most immigrants are not eligible for any welfare until they are fully naturalized.

Re:Productivity has grown faster in Western Europe than in A... by throwaway6734 on Friday October 06, 2023 @09:15AM (#37790362)
Look at the chart that op shared