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Re:I’m not a programmer, and I used AI to build my first bot by JieJie on Thursday October 05, 2023 @06:04PM (#37784869)
I hear what you are saying. What I think that what you're missing is that subsequent conversations with AI, where humans and AI solve problems together, is what the next generation of AI is going to be trained on. That data is being collected every time someone interacts with a chatbot, which is why they are being provided — so many of them - as a free service.

It is, as before: if the service is free, you are the product.

That being said, I think that to the extent AI is an actually helpful product, as opposed to social media, public forums, or free video hosting, the tradeoff is way more worthwhile. In my most humble opinion. I'm sure your calculus will lead to different outcomes.

Re:I’m not a programmer, and I used AI to build my first bot by blibble on Thursday October 05, 2023 @06:07PM (#37784898)
only in very rare cases will the data from the interaction actually be useful for training, simply because the final version is rarely supplied to it

yes, it's asked to produce something, but it won't see the result after substantial effort required to actually make it work

the interaction is not going to be nearly enough to produce useful training data to replace e.g. stackoverflow

Re:I’m not a programmer, and I used AI to build my first bot by visarga on Friday October 06, 2023 @06:52AM (#37789094)
> if the service is free, you are the product

and if GPTBot can reach your site, you are the product, they would make you their product even if you don't use their free service

but now they are not allowed to complain when others train models on GPT-4 data, they can become someone else's product too - see Orca, TinyStories and Phi-1.5