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Re:Microsoft introduces AI meddling to your files with Copil... by jbombadil on Thursday October 05, 2023 @11:27AM (#37779861)
> Worryingly, in the example given, Copilot can move files around and create folders depending on its interpretation of the user's instructions. What could possibly go wrong?

As long as copilot gives me a list of everything it’s going to change before doing it and an easy revert, I don’t see a problem with this. It sounds like a great feature!

Re:Microsoft introduces AI meddling to your files with Copil... by nixass on Thursday October 05, 2023 @11:54AM (#37780233)
> I don’t see a problem with this. It sounds like a great feature!

Famous last words

Re:Microsoft introduces AI meddling to your files with Copil... by theultdev on Thursday October 05, 2023 @12:03PM (#37780360)
That's why they qualified it.
Re:Microsoft introduces AI meddling to your files with Copil... by LonelyWolfe on Thursday October 05, 2023 @12:01PM (#37780333)
If I can get this to sort my huge mess of photos based on geolocation and time into folders for me based on my own folder and naming structure... This just might be useful.

Edit : even older folks who have no idea how tech works might be able to finally sort their photos as well.

Re:Microsoft introduces AI meddling to your files with Copil... by benrutter on Thursday October 05, 2023 @12:05PM (#37780394)
That sounds very helpful, and if AI can do it, then that's great. But also, it seems like rule based file restructuring should already be easily possible without AI. Shame something like that doesn't exist.
Re:Microsoft introduces AI meddling to your files with Copil... by ForkMeOnTinder on Thursday October 05, 2023 @12:09PM (#37780434)
It does exist, there are at least dozens of such tools. Here's a random one I found with a quick search. https://photostructure.com/getting-started/automatic-library...

But if it's not powered by AI it won't make the news in 2023

Re:Microsoft introduces AI meddling to your files with Copil... by wlesieutre on Thursday October 05, 2023 @12:10PM (#37780435)
I know on Mac the popular tool for automatic file sorting is Hazel

https://www.noodlesoft.com/manual/hazel/hazel-overview/

Re:Microsoft introduces AI meddling to your files with Copil... by baz00 on Thursday October 05, 2023 @12:13PM (#37780465)
You can do that in Apple Photos without an AI stuff.

What they need to do there is actually build a competent photo management app into the OS.

Re:Microsoft introduces AI meddling to your files with Copil... by kyriakos on Thursday October 05, 2023 @03:01PM (#37782715)
Isn't that what they just did?
Re:Microsoft introduces AI meddling to your files with Copil... by baz00 on Thursday October 05, 2023 @03:12PM (#37782885)
No. Nowhere near that. It's a steaming turd.
Re:Microsoft introduces AI meddling to your files with Copil... by SoftTalker on Thursday October 05, 2023 @01:01PM (#37781100)
Short circuit the problem by not taking so many photos. Ask yourself honestly, how often do you ever look at them? If you do, you've probably also got them organized. If you don't, then you're just hoarding.
Re:Microsoft introduces AI meddling to your files with Copil... by lobsterthief on Thursday October 05, 2023 @01:09PM (#37781194)
This sounds a lot like Jobs’ famous “don’t hold it that way” suggestion to solve iPhone 4’s signal dropping.

Asking users to take fewer photos is not a useful solution to the problem of managing large photo libraries.

Re:Microsoft introduces AI meddling to your files with Copil... by LispSporks22 on Thursday October 05, 2023 @01:44PM (#37781598)
In Apple-land, it's done that for ages: group via face, put name to face, group by geolocation etc. I think it's started recognizing my dogs too. Happens all device side.
Re:Microsoft introduces AI meddling to your files with Copil... by kyriakos on Thursday October 05, 2023 @03:01PM (#37782705)
Google photos does amazing work with this. It's face people detection is so good it recognises baby photos all the way to adulthood as the same person.
Re:Microsoft introduces AI meddling to your files with Copil... by Condition1952 on Thursday October 05, 2023 @05:26PM (#37784496)
yeah. I have spent two weeks hashing thousands of pictures scattered around the informal backups and now I still have to deal with different size versions of the same image.

I wish the computer could rename them consistently in my stead and removed the lesser quality versions. I would prefer if it was a tool developed by anyone else but Microsoft.

Re:Microsoft introduces AI meddling to your files with Copil... by blibble on Thursday October 05, 2023 @12:16PM (#37780500)
the undo button in explorer still doesn't work properly after 28 years
Re:Microsoft introduces AI meddling to your files with Copil... by jetrink on Thursday October 05, 2023 @12:35PM (#37780740)
I recently hit ctrl-z in explorer after accidentally moving some files and instead of moving back, they just disappeared. I couldn't believe it. I had to recover them from a remote backup.
Re:Microsoft introduces AI meddling to your files with Copil... by oefrha on Thursday October 05, 2023 @12:40PM (#37780815)
Shit, I once irreversibly lost a document I spent an hour on due to something like that. It’s ridiculous.
Re:Microsoft introduces AI meddling to your files with Copil... by bobbylarrybobby on Thursday October 05, 2023 @07:52PM (#37785702)
Re:Microsoft introduces AI meddling to your files with Copil... by ssss11 on Friday October 06, 2023 @05:28AM (#37788676)
I saved a ppt in OneDrive the other day and it disappeared. It hadn’t synced, but it didn’t only show locally, it had completely disappeared!

I closed ppt and re-opened but corp IT has disabled history in ppt so I couldn’t get to it again.

It just magically showed up an hour later……..

Re:Microsoft introduces AI meddling to your files with Copil... by happymellon on Friday October 06, 2023 @03:31PM (#37795152)
> corp IT has disabled history in ppt so I couldn’t get to it again.

Some of these rules that security come up with are amazing.

Re:Microsoft introduces AI meddling to your files with Copil... by beebmam on Thursday October 05, 2023 @01:26PM (#37781369)
Really? I've never had that problem. Can you get a repro scenario?
Re:Microsoft introduces AI meddling to your files with Copil... by yellow_lead on Thursday October 05, 2023 @01:43PM (#37781595)
I've had it happen before. It's a bit more complicated but I can't remember an exact repro. Something like delete, undo, redo, undo.
Re:Microsoft introduces AI meddling to your files with Copil... by dvngnt_ on Thursday October 05, 2023 @02:24PM (#37782135)
maybe external hard drive?
Re:Microsoft introduces AI meddling to your files with Copil... by hju22_-3 on Thursday October 05, 2023 @05:57PM (#37784796)
Nah, it's more like not all deletions are equal. It probably has to do with the user launching the event on the backend, if I were to guess, but sometimes if you delete something through Explorer, it isn't added to the undo history. Some of these I've seen not end up in the recycle bin despite not permanently deleting them, hence why I wouldn't be surprised if it was another user being used for these edge-cases. The deleted items would then be added to that user's recycle bin and be unavailable to the actual user's undo history.

Basically; not really sure, just making a wild guess, but I've encountered similar edge-cases before.

Re:Microsoft introduces AI meddling to your files with Copil... by passion__desire on Thursday October 05, 2023 @12:25PM (#37780618)
--dry-run
Re:Microsoft introduces AI meddling to your files with Copil... by jodrellblank on Thursday October 05, 2023 @12:58PM (#37781039)
*-WhatIf
Re:Microsoft introduces AI meddling to your files with Copil... by spacecadet on Thursday October 05, 2023 @06:15PM (#37784959)
they already generate your windows user name from your windows email leaving you with users like "hello" instead of the one you defined during startup... Such slop.