Re:LLMs Confabulate Not Hallucinate
by upwardbound on Thursday October 05, 2023 @05:33AM
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Here's the full passage in The Language Instinct about Denyse:
Source: http://f.javier.io/rep/books/The-Language-Instinct-How-the-M...
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Re:LLMs Confabulate Not Hallucinate
by upwardbound on Thursday October 05, 2023 @05:41AM
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After digging in a little further, it appears the primary source for the anecdote is this book, in a chapter called "The cognition hypothesis of language acquisition". Book:
Cromer, R.F. 1991. "Language and thought in normal and handicapped children." Cambridge, MA: Blackwell
https://www.amazon.com/Language-Handicapped-Children-Cogniti...
Re:LLMs Confabulate Not Hallucinate
by PoignardAzur on Thursday October 05, 2023 @06:41AM
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> I hate . . . , My mum works over at the, over on the ward and she said "not another bank statement." I said "it's the second one in two days." And she said "Do you want me to go to the bank for you at lunchtime?" and I went "No, I'll go this time and explain it myself." I tell you what, my bank are awful. They've lost my bank book, you see, and I can't find it anywhere. I belong to the TSB Bank and I'm thinking of changing my bank 'cause they're so awful. They keep, they keep losing . . . [someone comes in to bring some tea] Oh, isn't that nice.
In all seriousness, this feels weirdly similar to listening to Donald Trump.
Re:LLMs Confabulate Not Hallucinate
by YurgenJurgensen on Thursday October 05, 2023 @09:40AM
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Most transcripts of normal people end up sounding like that. Trump just tweets exactly how he talks, while most people code-switch in text.
Re:LLMs Confabulate Not Hallucinate
by PoignardAzur on Friday October 06, 2023 @09:33AM
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I don't know, I've had my nose in (machine-generated) transcripts a lot over the last few weeks, and they didn't give me that feeling, even when they were quite rambly.
I think it's the "jumping from one subject to the next without a broader point" thing that made me think of Donald Trump.
Re:LLMs Confabulate Not Hallucinate
by dkdbejwi383 on Thursday October 05, 2023 @06:44AM
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Sorry for the tangent, but the following is surprising to me:
> My bank are awful, by the way, is grammatical in British, though not American, English.
How would someone phrase this in idiomatic American English?
“My bank is awful.”
American English views organizations as a singular entity, not so much a group of individuals.
As does modern Australian English for the most part (I would typically say "my bank is awful". But I'd just as likely use "they" as a pronoun for it, especially if describing actions that were clearly carried out by those working there). I'd guess the same of NZ and Canadian English?
Re:LLMs Confabulate Not Hallucinate
by sheepscreek on Thursday October 05, 2023 @08:20AM
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Yep - they while describing their actions. In that respect, Canadian English is practically the same as American English. At least in the NY/Ontario region.
It reminds me of my kids occasionally telling a nonsense story as if it's something real that happened, but where it feels like they're subconsciously just practicing grammar or vocabulary and they're perfectly happy if I just correct their sentences rather than respond to the story.