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Re:Strong typing, a hill I'm willing to die on by soperj on Wednesday October 04, 2023 @11:15AM (#37766389)
> To paraphrase, it would take an enormous amount of prior trust and respect before I even humour someone trying me to convince me the sky is green with a straight face.

But people regularly say the sky is blue, and it's clear as day that it's not when the earth has turned and your side isn't facing the sun.

Re:Strong typing, a hill I'm willing to die on by bluGill on Wednesday October 04, 2023 @11:28AM (#37766587)
The sky is still blue, the lack of light means you cannot tell, but the color is still there.
Re:Strong typing, a hill I'm willing to die on by soperj on Wednesday October 04, 2023 @11:41AM (#37766792)
no... the sky is clear, and it's the refraction of light through the atmosphere that's confusing you.
Re:Strong typing, a hill I'm willing to die on by bluGill on Wednesday October 04, 2023 @12:35PM (#37767679)
As someone who would die without an atmosphere the distinction is meaningless.
Re:Strong typing, a hill I'm willing to die on by soperj on Wednesday October 04, 2023 @01:52PM (#37769019)
you're going to die regardless. The sky still isn't blue, which is quite obvious at night, or during sunsets and sunrise.
Re:Strong typing, a hill I'm willing to die on by digging on Wednesday October 04, 2023 @11:48AM (#37766903)
I don't think that's a statement that most would agree with. What is the sky? Sure the atmosphere can be called blue, but the sky is what's visually above the earth. At night, that's black space. The atmosphere is mostly transparent at night.
Re:Strong typing, a hill I'm willing to die on by stouset on Wednesday October 04, 2023 @12:25PM (#37767513)
The sky isn’t inherently blue. It’s essentially colorless.

Only due to Rayleigh scattering do we perceive it as blue, but that’s not due to the absorption and reflection of different wavelengths we associate with innate color. Note that the color changes depending on the angle of the sun, even to the point that it’s purple and red at a few times during the day.

Re:Strong typing, a hill I'm willing to die on by quonn on Wednesday October 04, 2023 @05:20PM (#37771969)
Perhaps, only because the sky is blue we perceive blue as blue. If the sky were red we would perhaps perceive all red like we do blue.

Our perception of the important colors (sky blue, ocean blue, vegetation green, …) probably evolved along with our physical needs.