Re:Return to Office Is Bullshit and Everyone Knows It
by bradly on Monday October 02, 2023 @12:16PM
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I was a remote worker at Apple pre-pandemic and had no problems. After COVID I was told that moving states where I live would have to get some approval and is not guaranteed. I left Apple shortly after and have been contracting since. For me when I was in an office full time I had to work my life around my work. When I have 40 hours to fill out over a 7 day period, I'm working my work around my life.
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Re:Return to Office Is Bullshit and Everyone Knows It
by sys_64738 on Monday October 02, 2023 @12:33PM
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Why didn't you just move states and ask "forgiveness" later? Companies cannot tell you where and when to live and if they try it see who blinks first. I would certainly have ignored them and let them fire me or RIF me.
Re:Return to Office Is Bullshit and Everyone Knows It
by toomuchtodo on Monday October 02, 2023 @12:34PM
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Learned appetite for that operating model. Have to have enough financial resources and grit accumulated first.
Re:Return to Office Is Bullshit and Everyone Knows It
by bradly on Monday October 02, 2023 @12:46PM
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That just isn't really something I wanted to do. I was in a privileged enough position where I could choose to leave so I did when it became convenient. Not everyone can do that and the new policies may put them in a bind.
Re:Return to Office Is Bullshit and Everyone Knows It
by panzagl on Monday October 02, 2023 @01:22PM
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There are a lot of differences between state labor laws and taxes, remote doesn't mean you can just change residences willy-nilly.
Re:Return to Office Is Bullshit and Everyone Knows It
by bradly on Monday October 02, 2023 @01:48PM
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That's very true, even contracting I ran into different issues based on where I work from and where they are. Some companies required a business entity is certain states.
Re:Return to Office Is Bullshit and Everyone Knows It
by gamblor956 on Monday October 02, 2023 @02:39PM
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An employee in a state exposes the employer to legal, regulatory, and tax jurisdiction. Many employers are not set up to handle compliance in states other than where they are located, and even many multi-state employers may not be set up to handle compliance in a particular state.
Not all states are understanding about this either; many states are notorious for penalizing employers for failing to comply with compliance requirements they didn't know they had because an employer moved to a state without telling them.
Prior to COVID, many companies considered this grounds for for-cause termination. Even post-COVID, some companies still consider this grounds for for-cause termination.
Re:Return to Office Is Bullshit and Everyone Knows It
by kridsdale3 on Monday October 02, 2023 @03:19PM
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I told Apple in 2015 that I was moving from California to Washington. They said they can't support that. I said goodbye.