Slack and Discord are better in this regard how?

Slack DOES have a good income source (buisness use)

Discord and telegram have premium but discord is way more used and have streaming features (really costly) and telegram premium is not that widespread and no one but power users need it

i feel like this is just a western perspective, telegram is very popular in some places and for good reason

I think he meant telegram premium, not the app. Its widespread for the wrong reasons, many people think its secure, its not, its one of the worst. It basically has no encryption at all.

Discord has 150 million MAU versus Telegram's 800 million MAU, according to Wikipedia. It's absolutely not way more used.

Telegram users are way less taxing on the infrastructure than a discord user

And the numbers seems to be more 200/700

Discord is just burning VC money.

Telegram doesnt even have that.

Its based in UAE, with a mere legal presence in Germany, their official explanation is that durov is financing it sincd its beginning in 2014, how? From his VK money.

This could've been believable, if telegram worked like WhatsApp with Minimum storage requirements, but its totally the opposite with huge hosting xosts and no clear funing source.

Costs* Funding* Typos as usual.

I pay for TG premium and it offers a lot for the little it costs. The value is there IMO. The uptake isn't yet but I guess they're banking on that coming in the future like most startups.