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Re:Shell employees urge CEO to rethink shift from renewables... by A_non_e-moose on Saturday September 30, 2023 @10:02AM (#37715531)
The closing off and lack of a diversified approach to solving energy problems also reveals the incapability or unwillingness of the CEO to think of the long term success of a corporation now singularly focused on the exploitation of a non-renewable, finite resource. They are now more focused and perhaps more profitable these quarters, but next FYs they will be more vulnerable to other competitors in the energy sector.

Short-termism seems to be an unavoidable condition when markets demand higher efficiencies.

Re:Shell employees urge CEO to rethink shift from renewables... by akho on Saturday September 30, 2023 @10:15AM (#37715642)
As an investor, I would very much prefer them to focus on what's profitable. I can invest my dividends/buyback cash into long-term successful renewable energy businesses, if that's what I want to be in. There's no need to have Shell make those decisions for me.

Now, if there's a synergy in there — somewhere where an oil company is uniquely positioned to implement renewables — that would be nice. I'm not sure if any such thing exists.

Re:Shell employees urge CEO to rethink shift from renewables... by ShrimpHawk on Saturday September 30, 2023 @10:31AM (#37715788)
If there were a company that turned literal murder into stock prices people would invest in it.
Re:Shell employees urge CEO to rethink shift from renewables... by akho on Saturday September 30, 2023 @10:40AM (#37715869)
There are hundreds of such companies, and some are quite hot. Your point?
Re:Shell employees urge CEO to rethink shift from renewables... by akho on Saturday September 30, 2023 @10:43AM (#37715908)
Also, oil/energy companies provide the foundation of modern technological civilization. We now see some downsides to that particular method, but “murder” is a jump of Olympic proportions.
Re:Shell employees urge CEO to rethink shift from renewables... by angra_mainyu on Saturday September 30, 2023 @01:36PM (#37717782)
Raytheon? Lockheed Martin?
Re:Shell employees urge CEO to rethink shift from renewables... by datavirtue on Saturday September 30, 2023 @10:29AM (#37715778)
I'm starting to realize that wind farms are not profitable at all. GE has a good bit of that industry buttoned up but they are not pursuing it. There are other examples of companies walking away from it or avoiding it. It's not out of ideology, corporations scramble for profit.
Re:Shell employees urge CEO to rethink shift from renewables... by linsomniac on Saturday September 30, 2023 @10:43AM (#37715896)
As a fellow investor, I started investing in RDS a couple years ago because I liked the opportunity for them using their oil war chest to springboard into renewables. Being an "energy company" rather than an "oil company". It's been doing pretty good, up 20%, but if they're just going to be another oil company, I'll probably put my money elsewhere.
Re:Shell employees urge CEO to rethink shift from renewables... by akho on Saturday September 30, 2023 @11:01AM (#37716079)
Why not ask them for the war chest money, and decide on your renewables allocation yourself? This whole “we're green now” approach is a very transparent plan of the management to remain in control of the “war chest”.
Re:Shell employees urge CEO to rethink shift from renewables... by cinntaile on Saturday September 30, 2023 @10:23AM (#37715721)
Who is going to threaten them in the energy sector? Their main competitors are other fossil fuel giants with a similar strategy.
Re:Shell employees urge CEO to rethink shift from renewables... by RetroTechie on Saturday September 30, 2023 @11:04AM (#37716112)
"Short-termism seems to be an unavoidable condition when markets demand higher efficiencies."

That's not a market failure, but poorly chosen bonus / reward structure (from society's point of view).

What if the bulk of CEO / board members' salaries & bonusses where structured as company share value, cashable no earlier than say, 20y from now? 'Pocket money' now for living expenses, a rich pension later if company does well long term.

That would surely change the incentives. As opposed to "add short-term share value, cash cheque, jump ship" as seems usual for CEOs these days.

Also it depends on whether Shell defines itself as oil company, or energy company. "Oil company"? Ok. No need to expect much from them concerning the energy transition. 1.5% of overall expenditure didn't match with "Shell continues its path as a leader in the energy transition" anyway.

Personally I think oil companies have a shrinking time window in which they'll continue to be profitable. After which market conditions & politics have changed, assets will be restructured, and (mostly small) shareholders will be left holding the bag. If you happen to be one of them: get out before the big boys do! Your funds are better used elsewhere.

Re:Shell employees urge CEO to rethink shift from renewables... by A_non_e-moose on Saturday September 30, 2023 @01:50PM (#37717921)
> What if the bulk of CEO / board members' salaries & bonusses where structured as company share value, cashable no earlier than say, 20y from now? 'Pocket money' now for living expenses, a rich pension later if company does well long term.

Pretty interesting concept actually! Much like stock as a golden cage retainer for tech workers. Who would have to be lobbied for that to go ahead?