That local sea life also provides humans with food. So even with the human-centric viewpoint, we have a strong incentive to solve this problem.

A poorly implemented runoff would nuke a square km or five of ocean floor with high salinity waste. It would not impact food supply in any discernable way. The ocean is simply too big.

Which ocean? People used to think this about raw sewage discharge. Check the state of UK beaches

That's impacting people who want to swim or surf in the sea. It's not impacting food supplies. Fishing boats operate much farther out.

Did so in person a couple of weekends ago. Looked fine, don't know what you're talking about.

> poorly implemented runoff would nuke a square km or five of ocean floor with high salinity waste.

So what is the problem then? We only need to lay pipes to ocean floors that are already not that lively?

Well no, that does not describe the local sea life everywhere.

Why does that have to be the solution?

Why not further concentrate it through evaporation? Then take that and pour it into old salt mines or spent oil wells? Or natural gas wells?

can we just pile it up into a huge salt mountain? and maybe eat some of it?

Further concentrated salt solutions deposit in the device, clogging it causing it to not work. You could harvest the salt, but then it is no longer passive.

Then don't concentrate it on the devices. Dump the water on a drying pool and extract the salt afterwards.

Ironically we'd probably need some amount of water to then purify the salt from the other random stuff

Need distilled water, luckily we were just making that.

You are underestimating the volume.

In that volume, you need a large drying pool.. which is no better than a parking lot.

Or just sell it as salt? We use, I don’t know, billions of pounds of salt per year in food production?

Making usable salt takes quite a bit of doing but as you note, we are already doing it.

I ran into this, it seems to explain how the sausage is made:

https://iopscience.iop.org/article/10.1088/1742-6596/1968/1/...

> Or just sell it as salt? We use, I don’t know, billions of pounds of salt per year in food production?

Are you sure the math even remotely checks out? Just looking up some numbers, even if we naively assume ocean "saltwater" is just H2O + NaCl (which it obviously isn't): the world consumes around 300 billion kg salt/year, whereas (say) Los Angeles alone uses 700 billion kg water/year. So even if a city like LA provides for the whole world's use of salt, what does everyone else do?

I'm sorry, perhaps my engineering education makes me handwave at problems -- but the water we're desalinating has to return to the ocean someway, it's not like we throw it into black holes, why can't we just dump the brine 20 miles into the ocean, the water we've desalinated will return by other means.

You’re assuming we need to get 100% of our water from desalination when it would only need to cover any shortfall from other methods. We’re currently getting 100% of the water we need from those other methods.

Really depends who "we" is. Israel gets 75% of its water from desalination already, and that's just right now. And a lot of the other water sources right now are nonrenewable (groundwater, etc.), hence a big part of the motivation to look for new ones in the first place. The current situation is not sustainable on its own in many parts of the world, let alone the effects of dramatically increasing population sizes and global warming.

According to a quick Google search,

> On average, about 35 g of salt is present in each 1 kg of seawater

so if those 700 billion kg of water for LA all came from desalination, that would yield 24.5 billion kg of salt.

That suggests we could have 12 LA-sized cities relying entirely on desalination before we'd saturate the world's demand for salt.

> That suggests we could have

"Could have" is doing a lot of heavy lifting there. Assuming spherical cows, 12 is an upper limit, okay. What you could actually do is neither remotely close to that nor is that itself remotely close to what the world needs, was the point.

The demand for salt is already saturated. It's a mature worldwide industry.

Adding your 12 cities would double the supply.

Salt filled with micro/nanoplastics.

I don't think humanity is ever really considering environmental impact unless it impacts it somehow. We care about disappearing species which amuse us, which we can see at our scale level, not much below. Some rare lion? Tragedy! Thousands species of fungi living underground which don't impact us directly? Irrelevant. Same goes for climate change and others. We only care if it impacts us in any way, even if only our entertainment.

So long story short we probably care about sea life.