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Re:First Impressions with GPT-4V(ision) by otoburb on Wednesday September 27, 2023 @08:56AM (#37673942)
>>Who holds their phone up and takes a photo then wants to know it was a photo of?

>>Great for the vision impaired.

Yes, this is great for the estimated 285 million vision impaired people around the world[1].

[1] https://www.bemyeyes.com/about

Re:First Impressions with GPT-4V(ision) by wokwokwok on Wednesday September 27, 2023 @08:57AM (#37673969)
Did you read my comment? I literally said that it’s for vision impaired.

That’s great. …but it’s niche.

I’m sitting on my couch right now and I can think of like 20 things I could chat to chatgpt about.

I can see literally nothing in my visual range want to take a photo of and run image analysis over.

It’s like Shazam. Yes, it’s useful, but, most of the time, I don’t need it.

I would argue this is true for this, for most people, including the significant proportion of people with minor visual impairments (that would, you know, put their glasses on instead).

Re:First Impressions with GPT-4V(ision) by bastawhiz on Wednesday September 27, 2023 @09:32AM (#37674422)
There's enough vision-impaired people in the world to equal the population of Japan, Korea, and Vietnam combined. And beyond those people who would get obvious utility, this is essentially Google Lens on steroids—I simply can't figure how you could call this "niche". Maybe you won't use it multiple times per day, but plenty of people will. Hell, just now I was wondering why the leaves on one of my plants are starting to brown and could have used this.
Re:First Impressions with GPT-4V(ision) by wokwokwok on Wednesday September 27, 2023 @09:36AM (#37674464)
Many of those people would be adequately served with a pair of glasses.

This, wouldn't help them, even if they had both a device capable of using it and the means to pay for it.

Even if it could help people, it's an open question if it would be safe, to, for example, use this to scan medication when it is only a probabilistic model that may hallucinate something that isn't actually there.

What you're talking about is a speculative use of a service that might one day exist based on this technology.

What I am talking about is this actual service.

Re:First Impressions with GPT-4V(ision) by og_kalu on Wednesday September 27, 2023 @09:47AM (#37674608)
>What you're talking about is a speculative use of a service that might one day exist based on this technology.

It's not a speculative service that might one day happen.

Literally it's rolling out right now

https://www.bemyeyes.com/blog/announcing-be-my-ai

Re:First Impressions with GPT-4V(ision) by bastawhiz on Wednesday September 27, 2023 @03:10PM (#37679708)
> Many of those people would be adequately served with a pair of glasses.

These people are being served by a preview of the service _right now_.

> Even if it could help people, it's an open question if it would be safe, to, for example, use this to scan medication when it is only a probabilistic model that may hallucinate something that isn't actually there.

Any OCR solution could also make a mistake, like misrecognizing a dosage on a prescription label.

> What you're talking about is a speculative use of a service that might one day exist based on this technology.

> What I am talking about is this actual service.

GPT-4 is six months old. ChatGPT is less than a year old. Why would you benchmark a service by the initial public preview? Of course it's _speculative use_, the damn thing has had its tires kicked for like a day.

Re:First Impressions with GPT-4V(ision) by Philpax on Wednesday September 27, 2023 @09:16AM (#37674221)
baffling that you think 3.5% of the world's population is a niche
Re:First Impressions with GPT-4V(ision) by epups on Wednesday September 27, 2023 @09:47AM (#37674609)
You are thinking too small here. Think about a system that could provide you with sophisticated image analysis to the level of a human expert. Tumor identification, quality control, etc. I don't think we are there quite yet, but this is clear and fast progress on that field.
Re:First Impressions with GPT-4V(ision) by digging on Wednesday September 27, 2023 @11:53AM (#37676537)
> I’m sitting on my couch right now and ... I can see literally nothing in my visual range want to take a photo of and run image analysis over.

What if you weren't on your couch? Going outside is not "niche".