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Re:macOS Sonoma is available today by capableweb on Tuesday September 26, 2023 @01:46PM (#37663047)
Isn't that basically why you get Apple stuff in the first place, to have primitive but well-working things? They're not exactly famous for catering to professionals or people who want a customized experience.
Re:macOS Sonoma is available today by mvdtnz on Tuesday September 26, 2023 @02:01PM (#37663318)
No that is not "basically why you get Apple stuff in the first place". I have never in my life seen either Apple or its fan base market their products this way. That is a post hoc rationalisation for their operating system missing quite a basic feature.
Re:macOS Sonoma is available today by capableweb on Tuesday September 26, 2023 @02:04PM (#37663366)
Really? "It just works" isn't something you've ever heard from someone who uses Apple products? Or "I might not be able to change X, but at least I know what's there works well"?
Re:macOS Sonoma is available today by thfuran on Tuesday September 26, 2023 @02:08PM (#37663429)
But it doesn't work. It isn't present. There's basically no window management.
Re:macOS Sonoma is available today by capableweb on Tuesday September 26, 2023 @02:28PM (#37663738)
I mean, it is present. Just because it's not as advanced as you'd like it to be, doesn't mean it's not there. You can move windows, you can cycle between different active windows, you can minimize windows and so on. That's window management.

Yes, super basic, but so is most features of Apple software. Simple, basic and without customization, just like how many Apple users like their software.

Re:macOS Sonoma is available today by Affric on Tuesday September 26, 2023 @07:07PM (#37667091)
Stage manager was a mistake.
Re:macOS Sonoma is available today by zapzupnz on Tuesday September 26, 2023 @09:36PM (#37668636)
Uh, Mission Control, formerly Exposé? Spaces? Full screen windows? The tiling shortcuts that appear when you hover the green window button?

If you don't use them, that's fine, but they do exist and they are well-used.

Re:macOS Sonoma is available today by mvdtnz on Tuesday September 26, 2023 @05:50PM (#37666251)
What does "It just works" have to do with "primitive" (your word) things? Besides, when was the last time Apple even used that turn of phrase?
Re:macOS Sonoma is available today by philistine on Tuesday September 26, 2023 @03:57PM (#37665022)
> They're not exactly famous for catering to professionals

If Mac OS wasn't famous for catering to professionals for a full decade, there would not be any Apple Computers inc. Of course the point still stands that Apple is famous nowadays for its phones, but macOS is still seen by many as the golden standard in window management. That it achieves its reputation without window snapping is a detail.

Re:macOS Sonoma is available today by riddley on Wednesday September 27, 2023 @11:03AM (#37675666)
I can only assume the people who find it to be the gold standard have never used any other window manager and/or have very low requirements/APM.