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Re:Ask HN: Best practices for safeguarding master password i... by ameliaquining on Tuesday September 26, 2023 @12:17PM (#37661559)
I think the question is how to handle something like an AWS root password, which doesn't conceptually belong to a single individual and which isn't feasible to entirely eliminate from the system.
Re:Ask HN: Best practices for safeguarding master password i... by fragmede on Tuesday September 26, 2023 @12:28PM (#37661718)
With advanced/power user AWS IAM roles, it's feasible to eliminate it for day to day uses, meaning that you can have it so only one or two people you trust actually have access to the root creds, and everyone else can go about their business.

Shamir's Secret Sharing software, ssss, will let you encrypt a file and split it into pieces so that 3 of 5 people are needed to decrypt.

http://point-at-infinity.org/ssss/

Re:Ask HN: Best practices for safeguarding master password i... by lsedgwick on Tuesday September 26, 2023 @12:56PM (#37662225)
Either the site really doesn't support https (odd, since it is the very page that supplies the verification hashes!) or something more scary is actually happening and it's getting universally man-in-the-middled, which feels plausible for a site that offers cryptographic tools for download.
Re:Ask HN: Best practices for safeguarding master password i... by thinkmassive on Tuesday September 26, 2023 @01:50PM (#37663127)
What tools are you seeing offered for download there?

Yeah it’d be better to use https since it lists some checksums, but it was last updated in 2018, and Debian packages are verified anyway.

Re:Ask HN: Best practices for safeguarding master password i... by matrss on Tuesday September 26, 2023 @02:05PM (#37663376)
It contains a http link to "ssss-0.5.tar.gz", which I would assume is meant to be a source code archive. That really looks suspicious.
Re:Ask HN: Best practices for safeguarding master password i... by thinkmassive on Tuesday September 26, 2023 @08:38PM (#37668083)
My apologies, I didn’t realize those were links.

Hopefully anyone interested for more than academic reasons does their research on the range of solutions more widely available.

Re:Ask HN: Best practices for safeguarding master password i... by matrss on Wednesday September 27, 2023 @07:15AM (#37673022)
To be fair, the color is misleading. I associate red text with dead links and that is the only reason I checked what they point at.
Re:Ask HN: Best practices for safeguarding master password i... by ficklepickle on Tuesday September 26, 2023 @02:51PM (#37664046)
It serves the cert for 0pointer.net, which is served from the same IP. I think it is more likely to be a poorly configured personal site than something nefarious.

If you are concerned, 0pointer.net has contact info.

Re:Ask HN: Best practices for safeguarding master password i... by sjm-lbm on Tuesday September 26, 2023 @12:22PM (#37661623)
At a business roughly the size of the one OP is talking about, we shared the password with a small group of people and kept a hardware two factor authentication device locked behind a door accessible only to a different small group of people. The basic idea is that you'd need both someone with the password (usually technical leads) and someone with access to a secret spot in the office (generally someone in finance/accounting) to log in, and locking anyone out of the office would instantly ensure they had no access.

I don't think a solution like this works directly for the specific situation that OP describes, but I do think it's a good solution for an AWS root account at an organization of the size he is talking about.

Re:Ask HN: Best practices for safeguarding master password i... by ziddoap on Tuesday September 26, 2023 @12:25PM (#37661672)
I think the answer above still stands.

Put it in a shared vault which can be accessed by however many people require it. They access the shared vault via their own password manager account.

Re:Ask HN: Best practices for safeguarding master password i... by xeromal on Tuesday September 26, 2023 @12:21PM (#37661612)
This is what I had in mind too!