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Re:Baby boomers are becoming homeless at a rate not seen sin... by invalidOrTaken on Monday September 25, 2023 @09:41AM (#37643665)
>Among my friends seeking to buy houses, the greater problem is the ability of large companies to buy up whatever is on the market, which they then immediately turn into a rental. It’s nearly impossible to compete with a company who will pay $50k over asking price, in cash, for the house you’re trying to get. Comparatively, immigrants don’t have the purchasing power to compete, so saying they’re the problem is a weird conclusion to draw.

While I bear zero animus towards immigrants, this seems obtuse. Why are those companies willing to pay so much? Because they predict they can charge enough rent to make it profitable anyway. Why would they think that? Because immigrants can compete down at the level of rents.

This seems like the same mistake people make about "luxury housing," but on the other end of the market. Building housing at the top of the market does indeed make things cheaper at the bottom of the market, and bringing in people at the bottom of the market does indeed make things more expensive at the top.

Re:Baby boomers are becoming homeless at a rate not seen sin... by titzer on Monday September 25, 2023 @10:29AM (#37644388)
> Why are those companies willing to pay so much?

Because they are buying assets with debt just like everyone else, and they don't actually care about ROI via rents, either due to "appreciation" (really, further inflation), or they're expecting the financial system to collapse.

Re:Baby boomers are becoming homeless at a rate not seen sin... by jlmorton on Monday September 25, 2023 @04:47PM (#37650379)
Blackrock doesn't care about the ROI of their housing investments, and they expect the financial system to collapse? Damn. Big if true.
Re:Baby boomers are becoming homeless at a rate not seen sin... by Workaccount2 on Monday September 25, 2023 @12:20PM (#37646377)
These companies hardly exist, "evil corporations" is just super memeable and denizens of the internet will accept it as the answer to anything bad.

In reality, the economy has been booming for the "haves" and those people are the ones bidding up homes and pay $50k over asking with a 6.5% mortgage. Corporations don't care much for home rentals when treasuries are paying 5% with zero overhead and zero risk.

Sucks to be poor and sad to be poor and still eating the "evil corporations" delusion.

Re:Baby boomers are becoming homeless at a rate not seen sin... by mikrotikker on Monday September 25, 2023 @05:53PM (#37651247)
So BlackRock and Vanguard didn't buy up swathes of housing out competing individuals by offering above asking price and then rent or landbank that housing?
Re:Baby boomers are becoming homeless at a rate not seen sin... by Workaccount2 on Tuesday September 26, 2023 @09:26AM (#37658960)
That was two years ago.
Re:Baby boomers are becoming homeless at a rate not seen sin... by mikrotikker on Monday October 02, 2023 @04:48PM (#37744209)
so?
Re:Baby boomers are becoming homeless at a rate not seen sin... by HDThoreaun on Tuesday September 26, 2023 @11:05AM (#37660453)
Not to a level that would make them one of the main culprit's for the housing crisis, no.
Re:Baby boomers are becoming homeless at a rate not seen sin... by mikrotikker on Monday October 02, 2023 @07:02PM (#37745624)
Do you have a source for that?
Re:Baby boomers are becoming homeless at a rate not seen sin... by escapedmoose on Monday September 25, 2023 @09:06PM (#37653003)
The worrying part is that my friends aren’t “sad and poor” by any means. But they’re still regularly outbid (by huge margins) by these companies, which they then watch turn the properties into rentals. I don’t know what the larger trends are, but as my circle attempts to break into homeownership for the past 3 or 4 years, I am the only person who managed to dodge this trend (truly through luck alone) and remain the only homeowner.
Re:Baby boomers are becoming homeless at a rate not seen sin... by mhuffman on Monday September 25, 2023 @02:13PM (#37648180)
> Because immigrants can compete down at the level of rents.

On a per house level, undocumented immigrants can often pay more than others because they are willing to live many more people to a house with rents being charged on a per-person basis. If the house is all male workers, homeowners can charge $100 per week per person (now, it used to be $50 and before than it was $25) and can have up to 4 people per bedroom and often multiple in the living-room. If families, there can often be 3-4 families in a single house, all paying less than they normally would to rent an individual house but much more total than the house would ever rent for otherwise.