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Re:ChatGPT can now see, hear, and speak – openai.com by mrits on Monday September 25, 2023 @09:13AM (#37643236)
It depends on the subject but search engines are on the decline. With so many fake website written by AI I can only see it get worse.

The most extreme I can think of is when I want to find when a show comes out and I have to read 10 paragraphs from 5 different sites to realize no one knows.

Re:ChatGPT can now see, hear, and speak – openai.com by layer8 on Monday September 25, 2023 @09:18AM (#37643299)
> The most extreme I can think of is when I want to find when a show comes out and I have to read 10 paragraphs from 5 different sites to realize no one knows.

I found that you can be pretty sure no one knows if it’s not already right on the results page. And if the displayed quote for a link on the results page is something like “wondering when show X is coming out?”, then it’s also a safe bet that clicking that link will be useless.

You learn those patterns fast, and then the search is fast as well.

Re:ChatGPT can now see, hear, and speak – openai.com by mrits on Monday September 25, 2023 @10:29AM (#37644392)
I don't disagree but having to have a learning phase for patterns sounds a bit like people clinging to an old way of things.
Re:ChatGPT can now see, hear, and speak – openai.com by layer8 on Monday September 25, 2023 @02:19PM (#37648282)
It’s better to have a pattern than having no pattern with ChatGPT to tell when it’s hallucinating or not.

I wish MLs were more useful than search engines, but they have still a long way to go to replace them (if they ever do).

Re:ChatGPT can now see, hear, and speak – openai.com by mrits on Monday September 25, 2023 @10:07PM (#37653424)
Google still thinks I want to click on the sites I haven't clicked on in a decade even though they are first results. Search engines have a long way to go to catch up to GPT
Re:ChatGPT can now see, hear, and speak – openai.com by jprete on Monday September 25, 2023 @04:34PM (#37650233)
You mean like prompt engineering?

What you’re describing as “clinging to an old way of things” is how every single thing has been, ever, new or old.

Re:ChatGPT can now see, hear, and speak – openai.com by mrits on Monday September 25, 2023 @10:05PM (#37653405)
I don't know why you come here and say something so obviously untrue.
Re:ChatGPT can now see, hear, and speak – openai.com by xdennis on Monday September 25, 2023 @09:58AM (#37643895)
> The most extreme I can think of is when I want to find when a show comes out

Yeah, I find that queries which can be answered in a sentence are the worst to find answers from search engines because all the results lengthen the response to an entire article, even when there isn't an answer.

Re:ChatGPT can now see, hear, and speak – openai.com by whimsicalism on Monday September 25, 2023 @02:22PM (#37648320)
agreed on that antipattern although fwiw chatgpt is unlikely to know the answer for questions like these either.