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Re:Amazon will invest up to $4B in Anthropic by baq on Monday September 25, 2023 @04:39AM (#37640957)
If this means alexa isn't a pet rock that can only reliably set timers, good for them.
Re:Amazon will invest up to $4B in Anthropic by devoutsalsa on Monday September 25, 2023 @04:42AM (#37640979)
It's also good at setting alarms.
Re:Amazon will invest up to $4B in Anthropic by Semaphor on Monday September 25, 2023 @04:49AM (#37641021)
And converting weird US units to sane ones.
Re:Amazon will invest up to $4B in Anthropic by vinay_ys on Monday September 25, 2023 @04:53AM (#37641056)
I wish Siri did that consistently. Right now my Apple Watch Siri is unusable even to set timers. I don't know if the latest updates on my old watch struggles to run or what else the issue could be.
Re:Amazon will invest up to $4B in Anthropic by chemmail on Monday September 25, 2023 @05:29AM (#37641304)
Old siri goes online, the new series 10 watch stuff is local, so might be better? Holding my breath lol .
Re:Amazon will invest up to $4B in Anthropic by IanCal on Monday September 25, 2023 @04:56AM (#37641075)
Alexa and google home have been excellent for discovering new music. You ask them for a song you know and they play either a very weird cover version or something entirely different.
Re:Amazon will invest up to $4B in Anthropic by gwd on Monday September 25, 2023 @05:19AM (#37641247)
Siri has been helpful for increasing my 3-year-old's vocabulary: he'll ask it to play a song he knows, and Siri will pick out an explicit R&B piece full of all sorts of words he's never been exposed to.</s>

(Seriously -- there's a song with the title "The ABC Song", which as one might expect, is about the ABCs. But it's impossible to get it to play that via voice control; it only wants to play "abcdefu", which is not the same song at all, and has a very clear F-bomb 5 seconds in.)

Re:Amazon will invest up to $4B in Anthropic by IanCal on Monday September 25, 2023 @05:38AM (#37641360)
Haha, the speed at which you need to be able to get it to stop is a key parenting skill. Saying that 4 seconds into a Tom Cardy song as my son says "but I love this one".

Maybe this is why some people are so good at the intro round at pub quizzes, you've got a few seconds to identify the exact song that's playing and mentally run through the lyrics before making a call.

Re:Amazon will invest up to $4B in Anthropic by manmal on Monday September 25, 2023 @06:23AM (#37641603)
I asked Siri today about the current week number (in German), and it failed. Just when I thought I've lowered my expectations enough, Siri can do one "better".
Re:Amazon will invest up to $4B in Anthropic by schoen on Monday September 25, 2023 @06:45AM (#37641744)
It might be a European vs. American cultural thing because week number is much less used in America, and Siri was developed by Americans. Maybe this is more of a localization failure than a generic functionality failure.

If it gave you an answer that seemed wrong, well, there are also several slightly different definitions of week number, so it could be that it chose one that wasn't the one you expected (maybe also a localization failure).

Re:Amazon will invest up to $4B in Anthropic by 3c0 on Monday September 25, 2023 @08:23AM (#37642583)
siri is honestly only good for basic question/answers. like "how is the weather going to be later" or "play X song", or "how old is X". i wish they integrated LLMs into personal assistants to truly have a conversational type experience
Re:Amazon will invest up to $4B in Anthropic by philshem on Monday September 25, 2023 @04:57AM (#37641091)
I am not a Google Home or Alexa user, and I honestly can't tell if this is meant to be sarcastic.
Re:Amazon will invest up to $4B in Anthropic by IanCal on Monday September 25, 2023 @05:34AM (#37641338)
Semi-serious.

It regularly picks up an entirely bizarre song, however in doing so it's also found some bangers. My kid loves diggy-diggy hole and it played the wind rose version (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=34CZjsEI1yU) which is awesome.

I asked for I wanna be like you for the kids and got the expected one a few times. Then one time it returned the triple J version by the Psychedelic Porn Crumpets (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bD0VpmaSBjs) which became the new version for running around the room pretending to be a rollercoaster.

These are covers at least, but it will also just play the weirdest mishearings of something.

So semi-serious as I'm mocking it getting things wildly wrong, but also legitimately we discover new music this way.

Re:Amazon will invest up to $4B in Anthropic by scns on Monday September 25, 2023 @06:53AM (#37641808)
> Then one time it returned the triple J version by the Psychedelic Porn Crumpets

The name made me laugh out loud but the recommends delivered this:

https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLtua5kEsbGX_1HhY4OQAg...

Allready diggin the first one of 100. Thank you sooo much!

Re:Amazon will invest up to $4B in Anthropic by scns on Monday September 25, 2023 @07:06AM (#37641928)
> Then one time it returned the triple J version by the Psychedelic Porn Crumpets

The name made me laugh out loud but the recommends delivered this:

https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLtua5kEsbGX_1HhY4OQAg...

Allready diggin the first one of 100, 95 to go. Thank you!

Re:Amazon will invest up to $4B in Anthropic by IanCal on Monday September 25, 2023 @07:46AM (#37642250)
If you like this kind of thing, also checkout the radio 1 live lounge stuff. Been going for a long time so I think there's playlists with a couple of hundred songs and they'll be a small amount of the full sets. Often tends towards more acoustic but you can find some great covers.
Re:Amazon will invest up to $4B in Anthropic by djjzjshdhhd on Monday September 25, 2023 @05:15AM (#37641218)
It's a joke. Google Assistant is notoriously awful and at home we often kid that if we ask it to play 90's rock on Spotify it will play some animal documentary on Netflix. It's not too far from the truth.
Re:Amazon will invest up to $4B in Anthropic by IanCal on Monday September 25, 2023 @05:39AM (#37641365)
Oh I love that, you ask it for a song, it gets it wrong and thinks you want some video. Then it tries to play the video, can't and acts like you were daft for asking it to do that.
Re:Amazon will invest up to $4B in Anthropic by pgeorgi on Monday September 25, 2023 @07:38AM (#37642184)
> play 90's rock ... some animal documentary ... not too far from the truth

Bloodhound Gang - The Bad Touch?

Re:Amazon will invest up to $4B in Anthropic by usui on Monday September 25, 2023 @05:06AM (#37641153)
It is, or at least facetious
Re:Amazon will invest up to $4B in Anthropic by jaggederest on Monday September 25, 2023 @05:19AM (#37641251)
only somewhat sarcastic. At least once a week Alexa will play an off the wall unrelated song or a crazy cover of the desired song.
Re:Amazon will invest up to $4B in Anthropic by donor20 on Monday September 25, 2023 @06:30AM (#37641636)
Somehow people have polluted and/or the assistants are too stupid to play well known songs from voice prompts. You get weird covers with clearly synthesized backing or random crap. It’s honestly weird. The covers shouldn’t even be on system half the time.
Re:Amazon will invest up to $4B in Anthropic by starbugs on Monday September 25, 2023 @04:57AM (#37641090)
That's the only thing I am using it for and I'd prefer if it stays that way.
Re:Amazon will invest up to $4B in Anthropic by donbox on Monday September 25, 2023 @05:06AM (#37641158)
also good for "Alexa, how is the weather today?"
Re:Amazon will invest up to $4B in Anthropic by dboreham on Monday September 25, 2023 @05:29AM (#37641303)
There were a few weeks recently when she couldn't even set timers (the timer wasn't displayed on the screen leading to constant "Alexa, show me the timer" requests).
Re:Amazon will invest up to $4B in Anthropic by Yizahi on Monday September 25, 2023 @05:31AM (#37641318)
Everyone has already moved to the much superior Alex.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=W0_Tt0En7v4

Re:Amazon will invest up to $4B in Anthropic by HerculePoirot on Monday September 25, 2023 @09:24PM (#37653146)
I hope the downvote you received for this comment did not leave you ... emotionally damaged.
Re:Amazon will invest up to $4B in Anthropic by Yizahi on Tuesday September 26, 2023 @09:45AM (#37659225)
Five PM reminder to myself - I'm still a disappointment :)
Re:Amazon will invest up to $4B in Anthropic by georgeecollins on Monday September 25, 2023 @06:18AM (#37641571)
Voice computing is in the trough of despair. Tech companies over-invested in them. They aren't the next iphone (nothing will be). But like millions of homes we have two that we use for a few things. Expect improvements at a disappointing pace, leading to improved utility.

Many dunked on the apple watch, but it keeps getting better. Meta's next headset will be disappointing to some but have an audience and keep improving. etc.

Re:Amazon will invest up to $4B in Anthropic by brooksbp on Monday September 25, 2023 @08:05AM (#37642403)
I'm still waiting for the day Google Assistant can answer "what time does Home Depot open in the morning?"

GA: "I found 3 locations, which one?"

Me: "The closest one"

GA: "I found 3 locations, which one?"

...

Re:Amazon will invest up to $4B in Anthropic by kevinmchugh on Monday September 25, 2023 @08:42AM (#37642790)
Even better if they all open at the same time, which is the case near me
Re:Amazon will invest up to $4B in Anthropic by kaibee on Monday September 25, 2023 @09:50AM (#37643795)
What was the point of feeding Google all my location history data if it can't even figure out which Wegmans I go to?
Re:Amazon will invest up to $4B in Anthropic by digging on Monday September 25, 2023 @12:15PM (#37646281)
This is how I feel about pretty much all the most data-hungry services. It's never been about an improved use experience, because the quality is not there.

I can't count how many times I yelled/cried about Spotify trying to learn every mood I've ever felt (and what song would have been perfect for the moment!) only to play the same 4 songs over and over because I listened to one of them on purpose a week ago. (I no longer use Spotify. We'll see if Tidal falls into the same trap.)

Re:Amazon will invest up to $4B in Anthropic by riku_iki on Monday September 25, 2023 @02:54PM (#37648765)
google assistant is probably still not Bard powered, so it just means someone didn't coded some rule: user asked "closest one" -> locate user location -> locate home depot closest to that location
Re:Amazon will invest up to $4B in Anthropic by travisjungroth on Monday September 25, 2023 @10:22AM (#37644259)
This reads like a sad variation of the traveling salesman problem.
Re:Amazon will invest up to $4B in Anthropic by malfist on Monday September 25, 2023 @02:59PM (#37648857)
Like what type of input where they expecting here?

Alexa does the same thing talking to smart devices.

Me: Alexa, turn of the loft lights

Alexa: A few things share the name "loft" which one did you mean?

Me: Can you list them?

Alexa: I did not find a device named "can you list them loft"

Re:Amazon will invest up to $4B in Anthropic by makestuff on Monday September 25, 2023 @09:25AM (#37643398)
They announced Alexa powered by some new LLM last week. Apparently it will go into beta sometime later this year.
Re:Amazon will invest up to $4B in Anthropic by tinyhouse on Monday September 25, 2023 @10:33AM (#37644461)
That's their in-house LLM though. Amazon prefers investing $4B into Anthropic rather than using their own stuff. If you ask me, long ago they should've taken the top ML and engineering talent from Alexa and let them focus on building an in-house Openai/Anthropic. Then the engineers who left in Alexa could just integrate that stuff, as of the rest of the company (AWS, retail, etc).