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Re:Biodistribution of mRNA COVID-19 vaccines in human breast... by vnchr on Saturday September 23, 2023 @06:57PM (#37628353)
> Our findings demonstrate that the COVID-19 vaccine mRNA is not confined to the injection site but spreads systemically and is packaged into BM EVs.

I thought Pfizer tested the vaccine and said this wouldn’t happen.

Re:Biodistribution of mRNA COVID-19 vaccines in human breast... by zolbrek on Saturday September 23, 2023 @07:47PM (#37628722)
That's what was claimed, yes.
Re:Biodistribution of mRNA COVID-19 vaccines in human breast... by thehappypm on Sunday September 24, 2023 @08:13AM (#37632382)
Source? I don’t recall this being a claim, at least not in the strongest claim of “100% stays in the muscle for all patients.”
Re:Biodistribution of mRNA COVID-19 vaccines in human breast... by reanimus on Saturday September 23, 2023 @07:47PM (#37628724)
Where did you see them claim this?
Re:Biodistribution of mRNA COVID-19 vaccines in human breast... by astrange on Saturday September 23, 2023 @07:50PM (#37628739)
> However, as only trace quantities are present and a clear translational activity is absent, we believe breastfeeding post-vaccination is safe, especially 48 h after vaccination.
Re:Biodistribution of mRNA COVID-19 vaccines in human breast... by salad-tycoon on Sunday September 24, 2023 @04:00AM (#37631040)
“I’m doing this for baby” ads turned out to be true. Or maybe it should have been “I’m doing this to baby.”

With the amount of backtracking any of this “we believe we totally did nothing wrong and you shouldn’t look too closely at us, ok?” Just really doesn’t sit well with me. What about the same “we believe” claims on transmission? Efficacy? Safety? Lots of modifying after the fact and “oops, sorry!”

Quis custodiet ipsos custodes?

Re:Biodistribution of mRNA COVID-19 vaccines in human breast... by astrange on Sunday September 24, 2023 @04:06AM (#37631073)
If drinking mRNA did anything, we wouldn't need needles for the vaccine, and we also wouldn't be able to eat meat.

> Lots of modifying after the fact and “oops, sorry!”

Nah, none of that happened and when it did it was natural and didn't imply any mistakes. If you're going to misunderstand research, it's better not to think about it in the first place.

(Example: efficacy of a vaccine always appears highest when noone's gotten the vaccine yet. This is a base rate effect.)

Of course, there were some other less effective vaccines in poor deprived countries like China and England, but we can't do much about that.

Re:Biodistribution of mRNA COVID-19 vaccines in human breast... by peyton on Sunday September 24, 2023 @10:22AM (#37633390)
I wouldn’t dismiss it out of hand. Check out An oral vaccine for SARS-CoV-2 RBD mRNA-bovine milk-derived exosomes induces a neutralizing antibody response in vivo [1].

[1]: https://www.biorxiv.org/content/10.1101/2022.12.19.517879v1

Re:Biodistribution of mRNA COVID-19 vaccines in human breast... by NullifyNAN on Monday September 25, 2023 @09:40AM (#37643634)
That's a completely different architecture than current lipid nanoparticle mRNA vaccines. It would be obvious to anyone with even a modicum of knowledge that the linked paper is not relevant.
Re:Biodistribution of mRNA COVID-19 vaccines in human breast... by wesapien on Sunday September 24, 2023 @08:54AM (#37632700)
Let's say it's true that it stayed locally, why do we them expect it to create immunity for the body and not just that area?
Re:Biodistribution of mRNA COVID-19 vaccines in human breast... by minifridge on Sunday September 24, 2023 @10:30AM (#37633470)
Immunity does not mean mRNA molecules diffused across the body. The mRNAs are supposed to be translated and degrated yielding the antigen protein. This antigens cause inflammation at the area of injection and in theory only the protein antigen will be circulated by the immune cells to generate immunity.
Re:Biodistribution of mRNA COVID-19 vaccines in human breast... by wesapien on Sunday September 24, 2023 @06:48PM (#37637918)
I'm recalling from a podcast that intramuscular shots doesn't really isolate but rather slows down the actual spread within the body. There's still capillaries and the lymphatic system where the shots can travel. How else do we explain what is happening?