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Re:FAA Authorizes Zipline to Deliver Commercial Packages Usi... by amelius on Wednesday September 20, 2023 @03:59AM (#37581626)
With a sufficient number of drones in the air simultaneously, this becomes a far more difficult problem.
Re:FAA Authorizes Zipline to Deliver Commercial Packages Usi... by heylook on Wednesday September 20, 2023 @04:09AM (#37581704)
Only if you assume there is no regulator or shared protocol.
Re:FAA Authorizes Zipline to Deliver Commercial Packages Usi... by amelius on Wednesday September 20, 2023 @04:23AM (#37581781)
Anyway, most people will not want a sky full of drones just so that some random Joes can get their stuff from Amazon or AliExpress a little sooner.
Re:FAA Authorizes Zipline to Deliver Commercial Packages Usi... by wuiheerfoj on Wednesday September 20, 2023 @06:00AM (#37582357)
I imagine people felt the same way when cars were popularised, but we‘ll get used to the convenience
Re:FAA Authorizes Zipline to Deliver Commercial Packages Usi... by amelius on Wednesday September 20, 2023 @06:06AM (#37582396)
This time it's different because we know where it might lead to.
Re:FAA Authorizes Zipline to Deliver Commercial Packages Usi... by m_fayer on Wednesday September 20, 2023 @06:19AM (#37582475)
If the skies fill with drones while traffic jams ease, there’s less double parking for delivery, and streets generally start looking more airy, people may make the association.
Re:FAA Authorizes Zipline to Deliver Commercial Packages Usi... by bluetech on Wednesday September 20, 2023 @07:43AM (#37582983)
That's not going to happen. Check out "induced demand".
Re:FAA Authorizes Zipline to Deliver Commercial Packages Usi... by hef19898 on Wednesday September 20, 2023 @07:46AM (#37583009)
Otherwise as selling dollara for dimes. At least in the last VC bavked iteration of it.
Re:FAA Authorizes Zipline to Deliver Commercial Packages Usi... by tinsmith on Wednesday September 20, 2023 @04:45AM (#37581925)
Historically speaking, tech is relatively unregulated and protocols are all over the place. I'd say it's a safe assumption.
Re:FAA Authorizes Zipline to Deliver Commercial Packages Usi... by BurningFrog on Wednesday September 20, 2023 @04:50AM (#37581958)
Birds are pretty dumb on average, and handle it really well.
Re:FAA Authorizes Zipline to Deliver Commercial Packages Usi... by c22 on Wednesday September 20, 2023 @05:54AM (#37582327)
Birds are not that dumb and compared to drones they're Einstein.
Re:FAA Authorizes Zipline to Deliver Commercial Packages Usi... by hef19898 on Wednesday September 20, 2023 @06:40AM (#37582583)
Specialized in flying, including eyes and brains, at that!

Autopiloted is much easier than cars because air space is less crowded with less obstacles and extremely well controlled. Low flying delivery drones don't fall in that bucket.

Re:FAA Authorizes Zipline to Deliver Commercial Packages Usi... by kwhitefoot on Wednesday September 20, 2023 @10:33AM (#37584668)
Less crowded now. But if they take over all those deliveries that are going on now the sky will get quite crowded and I suspect we will see people asking for no fly zones and for drones to be constrained to fly along roads instead of low over people's gardens. I certainly don't want hundreds of drones flying over my garden every day. Something like 35 million people in the UK buy something online every week, that would be a lot of drones. If you imagine that there is a distribution centre for every 50 000 people in the UK, that's roughly 1 500 distribution centres each with over 3 000 drone flights per day.

I realize that this is a very rough calculation and that of course there would be large variations in flight frequency but no one else seems to be showing anything better.

I don't think I would want to live near one.

Re:FAA Authorizes Zipline to Deliver Commercial Packages Usi... by BurningFrog on Wednesday September 20, 2023 @12:13PM (#37586022)
With thousands of drones crossing the city sky, there would have to be some kind of system to organize that traffic, both to minimize collisions and sound pollution.

It's not hard to imagine how systems like that could be organized.

It's also important to consider how many road vehicle trips this would replace.

Re:FAA Authorizes Zipline to Deliver Commercial Packages Usi... by kwhitefoot on Thursday September 21, 2023 @08:45AM (#37596804)
I don't care how it is organized, I just don't want them all flying over me. Living near such a distribution centre would be like living next to an airport unless there are regulations enforced that they ascend vertically so high that they cannot be heard.

How many road trips would it replace? Drones capable of carrying a 5 kg payload over any distance are fairly big. The DJI Matrice 600 Pro for instance weighs 15 kg and is over a metre across. It has a hover time of only 18 minutes. Maximum speed is 65 kph so its round trip range is about 20 km.

A small electric van can easily carry a hundred such packages and has an empty weight of roughly one hundred times that of the drone.

Presumably the drones used for deliveries would have to be much more robust and have much longer ranges, both of which would make them heavier.

So 100 drones replace one van.

I'm sure there are huge holes in my analysis perhaps, you can improve it so that it shows that a substantial number of road trips would be replaced without filling the sky with drones.

Re:FAA Authorizes Zipline to Deliver Commercial Packages Usi... by sverhagen on Wednesday September 20, 2023 @06:35AM (#37582542)
Birds aren't real. Google it, "do your own research"!
Re:FAA Authorizes Zipline to Deliver Commercial Packages Usi... by bombcar on Wednesday September 20, 2023 @09:12AM (#37583696)
Big sky theory falls apart near airports already, and a crowded drone filled sky would have issues especially with unexpected weather.
Re:FAA Authorizes Zipline to Deliver Commercial Packages Usi... by marcosdumay on Wednesday September 20, 2023 @12:05PM (#37585925)
Only on places where they concentrate. It's not really flying that is difficult, it's approach and take-off, because they have to go through all of the heights.