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Re:Aldous Huxley's Deep Reflection by locuscoeruleus on Wednesday September 20, 2023 @03:48AM (#37581549)
This sounds like spiritual bypass, which is a failure mode of mindfulness a lot of people can fall into. You say it drives your wife crazy, so it seems that being in this state doesn't actually help you resolve issues between you and your wife. It only numbs you to the conflict and puts the whole burden on your wife.
Re:Aldous Huxley's Deep Reflection by robertlagrant on Wednesday September 20, 2023 @04:08AM (#37581689)
> You say it drives your wife crazy, so it seems that being in this state doesn't actually help you resolve issues between you and your wife. It only numbs you to the conflict and puts the whole burden on your wife.

I don't understand why you're saying this. The technique wasn't primarily to resolve issues with spouse; it was to fight panic attacks.

Re:Aldous Huxley's Deep Reflection by midoridensha on Wednesday September 20, 2023 @04:20AM (#37581761)
If the OP needs to zone-out to avoid a panic attack when talking with his wife, it sounds like they have some serious marital problems, and this is just a way of avoiding dealing with them.
Re:Aldous Huxley's Deep Reflection by robertlagrant on Wednesday September 20, 2023 @04:35AM (#37581863)
Read this:

> I suffered from panic attacks in my youth.

Does it now make sense?

Re:Aldous Huxley's Deep Reflection by tuyiown on Wednesday September 20, 2023 @06:37AM (#37582553)
> If the OP needs to zone-out to avoid a panic attack when talking with his wife

He didn't said that. His wife his just frustrated that he can do this, I'm pretty sure he never told us he did this to annoy his wife on purpose or escaping.

Re:Aldous Huxley's Deep Reflection by smogcutter on Wednesday September 20, 2023 @06:54AM (#37582657)
> In this state I may acknowledge her talking to me but have little or no memory of any conversations after.

He tunes out his wife

> if I so choose

Willfully

> It drives my wife crazy

And often enough that it’s an issue.

He hasn’t shown up again in this bizarre thread, heck he’s probably doing it right now!

Re:Aldous Huxley's Deep Reflection by tuyiown on Wednesday September 20, 2023 @07:36AM (#37582923)
Don't build scenarios out of aligned facts :

> but if I so choose, I can completely zen out within 30 seconds and enter a state of total relaxation.

Sometime peoples just want to have own time and relaxing in their own preferred way

> In this state I may acknowledge her talking to me but have little or no memory of any conversations after.

It happened to his wife to come and start talking to him in this state, but him being able to acknowledge her without remembering the conversation causes her great frustration.

>> He hasn’t shown up again in this bizarre thread, heck he’s probably doing it right now!

Given the number of totally unjustified judgmental, misread based responses, no wonder one would shy out. Assuming that checking for answers it the sane behavior in the first place.

Re:Aldous Huxley's Deep Reflection by saiya-jin on Wednesday September 20, 2023 @08:00AM (#37583111)
Well, OP could have framed his description a lot better since its easy even for native speakers to come up with conclusion he acts like an a-hole towards his wife and avoids conflicts. This is internet, folks don't re-read some anonymous comments 5 times to grok what was actually meant.

Good for him if he managed to get serious crippling condition under control, that's a hard feat deserving respect.

Not a fan of self-illusion claims about talking to god, that's not even how major religions are made from scratch (communication with God in my view is 2-way process, and no judaism/christian/muslim god ever talks back, but I get that it was probably not meant literally), but that's just an agnostic's nitpick when seeing righteous religious folks who claim weird stuff in my view.

Re:Aldous Huxley's Deep Reflection by tuyiown on Wednesday September 20, 2023 @08:19AM (#37583271)
You're blaming the poster for judgmental people snapping at him ? It's one thing to wish people being more articulate, it's another to use it as an excuse for 0 thought patronizing.

If someone has to refrain from express themselves or taking better care of what and how they say it, it's moralists reframing words of other people, without even thinking of asking questions beforehand.

Re:Aldous Huxley's Deep Reflection by mistermann on Wednesday September 20, 2023 @09:30AM (#37583877)
> Not a fan of self-illusion claims about talking to god

> no judaism/christian/muslim god ever talks back

Agnostic: One who believes that it is impossible to know whether there is a God.

Houston, we have a problem: faith is a fundamental aspect of consciousness and culture, not just religion.

Re:Aldous Huxley's Deep Reflection by robertlagrant on Wednesday September 20, 2023 @12:00PM (#37585843)
> Well, OP could have framed his description a lot better since its easy even for native speakers to come up with conclusion he acts like an a-hole towards his wife and avoids conflicts

Definitely not - it was completely clear from the start that OP had panic attacks since childhood.

Re:Aldous Huxley's Deep Reflection by monero-xmr on Wednesday September 20, 2023 @08:41AM (#37583412)
I went to sleep - but all of these responses and conjecture amuse me greatly, so I shall let it continue without comment.
Re:Aldous Huxley's Deep Reflection by smogcutter on Wednesday September 20, 2023 @03:04PM (#37588555)
Sorry, did you say something? I was meditating.
Re:Aldous Huxley's Deep Reflection by Cthulhu_ on Wednesday September 20, 2023 @10:34AM (#37584684)
You're blaming one person's emotional and physical experience on two people for some reason. One thing that is important in a healthy marriage is that people's feelings vs their actions are separate entities, and that one person's feelings shouldn't affect someone else's in an unhealthy fashion (enmeshment). A panic attack is unhealthy and unhelpful - if there's a conflict, one party going into a panic will not resolve the conflict.

TL;DR, being able to stop a panic attack or otherwise unproductive emotional response is a great skill to have. If the other party takes that personal then that's something they need to work on themselves.

Re:Aldous Huxley's Deep Reflection by hutzlibu on Wednesday September 20, 2023 @05:26AM (#37582187)
"It only numbs you to the conflict and puts the whole burden on your wife."

Or it prevents the conflict from escalating. Panic and anger are connected, so if he found a way to be calm and stop the conversation, I guess this is way better than having the conflict in a mode of distress. So later, when both are calm, the issues can get resolved.

Re:Aldous Huxley's Deep Reflection by dredmorbius on Wednesday September 20, 2023 @06:20AM (#37582482)
Persistent antagonists and provocateurs tend to become antagonised and provoked when their attempts to antagonise and provoke fail.

That is a secondary consideration to preventing further antagonisation, provocation, and escallation of the situation itself.

That said, there seems to be an underlying interpersonal conflict, and possibly incompatibility, here.

Re:Aldous Huxley's Deep Reflection by hutzlibu on Wednesday September 20, 2023 @06:46AM (#37582623)
"That said, there seems to be an underlying interpersonal conflict, and possibly incompatibility, here."

Possible, but I would not judge so much, from the little that was shared. Op just shared what worked for him, to prevent panic attacks. And he shared that their are downsides as well, that frustrates his wife. The rest is speculation.

Re:Aldous Huxley's Deep Reflection by dredmorbius on Wednesday September 20, 2023 @07:40AM (#37582956)
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Re:Aldous Huxley's Deep Reflection by hutzlibu on Wednesday September 20, 2023 @08:17AM (#37583254)
I noted your "seems to". I just wanted to point out, that it could be seen as overstepping a line, to suggest that the whole marriage is possibly incompatible, because of that little shared info. I mean, of course it does not sound ideal. But I would not dare to judge the whole relationship because of it.
Re:Aldous Huxley's Deep Reflection by dredmorbius on Wednesday September 20, 2023 @09:03AM (#37583621)
That is an absolutely fair point.
Re:Aldous Huxley's Deep Reflection by koprulusector on Thursday September 21, 2023 @09:56AM (#37597681)
OP never mentioned conflict. He just said he zones out and ignores his wife.
Re:Aldous Huxley's Deep Reflection by meindnoch on Wednesday September 20, 2023 @05:35AM (#37582223)
You say "failure mode", but it sounds like a superpower to me.
Re:Aldous Huxley's Deep Reflection by foobiekr on Wednesday September 20, 2023 @11:55AM (#37585790)
Please don't "you're doing it wrong" with mindfulness. Mindfulness has become almost a religion for some people who want it to be more than a pragmatic tool with various consumption styles.

The whole thing has been oversold in the same way that cannabis, etc. were. It's just a thing, utterly detached from artificial spiritual goals, and we should let people use it how they want.