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Re:Is the End of Aids in Sight? by 0xbadcafebee on Tuesday September 19, 2023 @03:44PM (#37575372)
Promiscuity does not propagate sexually transmitted diseases. You are working off of a false stereotype which has limited the capacity of your rational thought, and as a result, you imagine a world which does not exist, and propose solutions which will not work. This is a common problem with HN people. They come up with this one idea that kind-of makes sense, and then stop thinking, and shape their whole thought process around this false premise.

Did you take a second to google this idea you had to see if it made sense? No; because if you had, you'd have found that HIV is spread by blood, semen, pre-seminal fluid, rectal fluids, vaginal fluids, breast milk. People who inject hormones, silicone, steroids, and drugs, can get or transmit HIV by sharing needles, syringes, or other injection equipment. It can be spread through pregnancy or stepping on an infected needle at the beach. It's often spread by not using protection during sex. And straight and gay people both get it.

Gay people do not have more sex partners than straight people. Promiscuous people do have more partners than non-promiscuous people. Gay, straight, bi, queer, etc, can all be promiscuous, just like they can all also be monogamous or even asexual. You may not like that de-simplification, but it exposes the flaw in this notion that gay people are sluts and sluts get STDs. It just doesn't work that way. Safe sex, even if you fuck a lot of people, makes you much less likely to get an STD than if you only occasionally had sex and never use protection. In countries with limited access to safe sex, all people across all demographics contract it. It's not just poor Africans and gay men, despite that being the unfortunately common misconception.

Re:Is the End of Aids in Sight? by rafaelero on Tuesday September 19, 2023 @05:30PM (#37577035)
> Promiscuity does not propagate sexually transmitted diseases.

Of course not, they are propagated by poneis and unicorns. Nothing to do with having sex with multiple partners.

> Gay people do not have more sex partners than straight people.

You are deluded. Not only gay people have higher median number of sexual partners, but our sexual network is tighter, since fewer people are gay compared to straight. That's a perfect environment for sexual diseases to spread, which was the case with AIDS and more recently MPox.

Re:Is the End of Aids in Sight? by bobsmooth on Tuesday September 19, 2023 @05:39PM (#37577161)
>Gay people do not have more sex partners than straight people.

On average, gay men will have more sexual partners than straight men. There's no reason to deny this.

https://www.psypost.org/2020/07/lgb-people-and-extraverts-te...

>transmit HIV by sharing needles

The vast majority of new infections are through gay men having sex. IV drug use only accounts for 7% of new infections

https://www.hiv.gov/hiv-basics/overview/data-and-trends/stat...

>but it exposes the flaw in this notion that gay people are sluts and sluts get STDs.

Your insecurities don't change the facts. Gay men have more sex and more sex leads to more STDs.

Re:Is the End of Aids in Sight? by fragmede on Tuesday September 19, 2023 @07:08PM (#37578329)
In particular though, anal sex has a higher chance of passing on specific STDs. Gay women have a statistically lower (but not zero) chance of passing on STDs.

https://stanfordhealthcare.org/medical-conditions/sexual-and...

Re:Is the End of Aids in Sight? by imagainstit on Wednesday September 20, 2023 @12:48AM (#37580482)
"The vast majority of new infections are through gay men having sex. IV drug use only accounts for 7% of new infections"

In the US.

The vast majority of infections (90%) in Africa are from heterosexual sex:

https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/12665438/#:~:text=Abstract,a....

The primary driver of the enormous epidemic ongoing in Russia is by far IV drug users (and heterosexual sex):

https://www.politico.eu/article/everything-you-wanted-to-kno...

"Although needle-sharing among drug addicts was one of the main reasons the disease spread so quickly, most HIV transmissions in Russia — 57 percent — are now a result of heterosexual sex. Drug use is responsible for 40 percent, while gay sex accounts for around 3 percent, according to Russia’s Federal Research Center for AIDS Prevention and Control in Moscow."

The majority of people living with HIV worldwide are straight women (52%):

https://www.unwomen.org/en/what-we-do/hiv-and-aids/facts-and....

I agree with you that the claim from some people to make like sex and number of sexual partners has nothing to do with STDs is ridiculous. It annoys me a great deal.

Gay men are disproportionately at risk and affected due to number of partners and type of sex. But most people with AIDS are straight.

Anyway your LGB link is funny because it claims (I think out of confusion) that lesbians have more partners as well. But lesbians also have the lowest std rates of any group. Making them obviously the best and most morally superior of the orientations.

Re:Is the End of Aids in Sight? by DiggyJohnson on Wednesday September 20, 2023 @01:52AM (#37580808)
STDs are spread through sexual activity, and the more partners you have will increase the transmission rate. Gay men are well documented to have on average more sexual partners than other sexualities. Both of these are… obvious and well documented, depending on your experience or understanding of the literature (take your pick).

Obviously HIV can be spread by other vectors, that doesn’t make what I’ve said above not true. This is one of the most illogical comments I’ve seen in awhile, purely wishful thinking. Promiscuity is fine, but don’t be naive.

Re:Is the End of Aids in Sight? by 0xbadcafebee on Wednesday September 20, 2023 @02:04PM (#37587576)
I'm willing to bet you're a white male, because on average, most HN users are. Given that, would it be okay if I said most white people are imperialistic, colonizing abusers who oppress women and minorities? Because on average they have been exactly that.

Once you're on the receiving end of these "averaged" generalizations, you realize that it's not a great idea to think that way or to try to rationalize using them. It's like the people that say things like "on average, black people commit more crime" and then use that oversimplification to justify racial bias.

(and yeah, i'm probably gonna be flagged for pointing out the logical fallacies that get propagated to justify systemic racism, misogyny, homophobia and slut-shaming, but i'm not gonna censor myself to avoid pointing out fallacious tropes in common discourse)

Re:Is the End of Aids in Sight? by mrmlz on Thursday September 21, 2023 @04:06AM (#37594595)
I'm not sure this is the GREAT COMEBACK you'd hoped for.
Re:Is the End of Aids in Sight? by DiggyJohnson on Thursday September 21, 2023 @10:16AM (#37597967)
I'm sorry if you're not comfortable with dealing with averages. It's not that I don't understand that the average doesn't define all or most members of a group.