Re:Striking auto workers want a 40% pay increase–the same ra...
by borisjabes on Monday September 18, 2023 @07:35PM
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Some public CEOs comp packages are defined by them exceeding $SPY so boards do expect more than just the economic cycle.
Re:Striking auto workers want a 40% pay increase–the same ra...
by somebodythere on Monday September 18, 2023 @08:12PM
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50% of SPY constituents are going to beat SPY. That in itself doesn't imply the CEO is a meaningful factor in company performance.
Re:Striking auto workers want a 40% pay increase–the same ra...
by HDThoreaun on Monday September 18, 2023 @08:33PM
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This isn’t true because of the weighting. If apple doubles in value SPY will be up 8% from that alone. It’s easy to see a scenario where one massive company has an incredible year and every other company returns below the average.
Re:Striking auto workers want a 40% pay increase–the same ra...
by vkou on Monday September 18, 2023 @08:57PM
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Or, alternatively, one massive company has a bad year, and everyone else comes out smelling like roses.
On average, 50/50 is a pretty decent benchmark here.
Re:Striking auto workers want a 40% pay increase–the same ra...
by WalterBright on Monday September 18, 2023 @07:57PM
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> but in general the CEO doesn’t really do much to the stock price
Steve Jobs, Bill Gates, Elon Musk, Satya Nadella, etc.
> ceo pay is based on the economic cycle rather than how the company does
You can always start your own corporation, name yourself CEO (all you gotta do is file some paperwork and pay an annual fee) and rake in the dough for doing nothing!!
Re:Striking auto workers want a 40% pay increase–the same ra...
by Per_Bothner on Monday September 18, 2023 @08:21PM
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That is true. Elon Musk has greatly affected the stock price of the Company Formerly Known as Twitter.
Re:Striking auto workers want a 40% pay increase–the same ra...
by WalterBright on Monday September 18, 2023 @09:25PM
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Since Musk took it private, the stock price is not known.
Re:Striking auto workers want a 40% pay increase–the same ra...
by astrange on Tuesday September 19, 2023 @02:12PM
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It has public shareholders like Fidelity, so they do report what they value it at. I don't remember what it is, but it's at least 1/3 marked down.
Re:Striking auto workers want a 40% pay increase–the same ra...
by ipaddr on Monday September 18, 2023 @08:47PM
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Those are founders but this is an external hire at a later stage not really the same.
Re:Striking auto workers want a 40% pay increase–the same ra...
by astrange on Monday September 18, 2023 @10:28PM
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The story I linked is actually a cofounder.
Re:Striking auto workers want a 40% pay increase–the same ra...
by ummonk on Monday September 18, 2023 @09:02PM
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Nobody is complaining about founder pay. The complaint is about publicly traded companies being subjected to elite capture by parasitical execs.
Re:Striking auto workers want a 40% pay increase–the same ra...
by WalterBright on Monday September 18, 2023 @09:25PM
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Satya Nadella is not a founder. But during his tenure the value of MSFT went up by 10x. I'd say he's well worth his compensation.
How many companies really break that relationship in their market sector?
So tldr, ceo pay is based on the economic cycle rather than how the company does.