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Re:AWS IPv4 Estate Now Worth $4.5B by CMCDragonkai on Sunday September 17, 2023 @11:12PM (#37551792)
I'm curious if one were to be certain nation state and was happy being a completely isolated intranet, that they would just exit such arin or related associations and just create their own governing body of IP allocations? In such a case such an internet would be a completely separate internet right?

I wonder if sanctions may ever apply to the internet itself and we may see a break up of the internet into regional internet's.

And if we want to ensure global connectivity these associations would need to be completely independent and voluntary standard and such fees would be paid to an international standards body not beholden to any particular nation's whims?

What if nations started adding intercontinental NAT gateways acting as the entry and exit points between their national boundaries and the rest of the world.

Re:AWS IPv4 Estate Now Worth $4.5B by otabdeveloper4 on Monday September 18, 2023 @12:40AM (#37552307)
The big nations have already wargamed this scenario and have contingency plans in place.

IMO we'll see this happen in our lifetimes.

Re:AWS IPv4 Estate Now Worth $4.5B by CMCDragonkai on Monday September 18, 2023 @01:24AM (#37552521)
Could starlink be a way to maintain global connectivity in the face of government control? Would they try to jam satellite connections?
Re:AWS IPv4 Estate Now Worth $4.5B by p1mrx on Monday September 18, 2023 @02:09AM (#37552785)
It's harder to jam Starlink than GPS because the signals are directional, but if a government doesn't want you using it, they can just make the dishes illegal and throw you in prison for having one.
Re:AWS IPv4 Estate Now Worth $4.5B by otabdeveloper4 on Monday September 18, 2023 @02:21AM (#37552877)
Starlink is under USA jusrisdiction, as far as I know. I'm pretty sure there's no concept of "international waters" for communication satellites.
Re:AWS IPv4 Estate Now Worth $4.5B by yMMe2WYE_D on Monday September 18, 2023 @03:30AM (#37553345)
AFAIK Most of the traffic goes: subscriber <-> (single) satellite <-> local base station. And the latter operates under the rules of given country.
Re:AWS IPv4 Estate Now Worth $4.5B by Figs on Monday September 18, 2023 @01:12AM (#37552463)
North Korea supposedly has its own intranet with IPs in the 10.0.0.0/8 private range: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kwangmyong_(network)

I have no idea how they manage IP allocation internally there though.

Re:AWS IPv4 Estate Now Worth $4.5B by shrubble on Monday September 18, 2023 @01:41AM (#37552620)
They could just use CGNAT and could get pretty far on that alone. https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Carrier-grade_NAT