Making a difficult problem irrelevant is pretty solid engineering.

Not having the problem in the first place is the best way to solve it. We are discussing finished products. My M2 air lasts a million hours and doesn't get hot. My XPS lasts 4 or 5 and burns the top of my legs.

I'm not sure yours is the criticism you think it is.

Ultimately, heat is waste, and the less of it you generate, the better. When I said "thermals" I meant chip design, not cooling system design. This is obviously one of the huge benefits of their vertical integration.

A chip that doesn't get hot sounds like pretty efficient cooling design to me.

So they treated the symptoms by treating the cause? Sounds like a win to me lol.

I struggle to understand this Goalpost. Thermals and power go hard in hand. Battery life and noise follow suit. Overheated legs and wrists are not much fun either. In any case, most other laptops in a similar form factor have equal or worse cooling. Thermal throttling shows up on laptop reviews a lot.

Actually Apples cooking has been pretty rock solid. What let apple down was Intel.

Intels mobile CPUs have been, and still are absolute trash.

they took entire class of problem and made it disappear, that's great engineering.

So.. they don’t have thermal issues?