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Re:Satya Nadella: “I want to use this tactically vs. GOOG/AA... by oblio on Saturday September 16, 2023 @08:55PM (#37540415)
That bothers me a bunch but not less than using "ask" as a replacement for "request" and "learning" for "lesson".
Re:Satya Nadella: “I want to use this tactically vs. GOOG/AA... by xwowsersx on Saturday September 16, 2023 @09:10PM (#37540484)
I am so with you. "Ask" drives me up a wall!
Re:Satya Nadella: “I want to use this tactically vs. GOOG/AA... by xyzelement on Saturday September 16, 2023 @10:14PM (#37540816)
I find that limiting the number of things that drive you up a wall is good.

"I have something to ask of you" is not a novel term for request. And ask is softer than request, giving the other party more opening to decline. I don't hate it.

Re:Satya Nadella: “I want to use this tactically vs. GOOG/AA... by gldnspud on Saturday September 16, 2023 @10:21PM (#37540852)
I think the annoyance is in the use of the word “ask” as a noun. Example: “I have an ask for you” being used instead of “I have a request for you”.
Re:Satya Nadella: “I want to use this tactically vs. GOOG/AA... by xwowsersx on Saturday September 16, 2023 @10:51PM (#37541034)
Yeah we're talking here about "ask" as a noun, as in "what's the ask?"

> I find that limiting the number of things that drive you up a wall is good.

Me too, but if this is really just a way of saying "this shouldn't upset you", you should just say that. As stated, it comes across as condescending.

Re:Satya Nadella: “I want to use this tactically vs. GOOG/AA... by oblio on Sunday September 17, 2023 @05:20AM (#37543094)
"Ask" the pseudo-noun.
Re:Satya Nadella: “I want to use this tactically vs. GOOG/AA... by relesson on Saturday September 16, 2023 @09:59PM (#37540743)
I think the case re: lesson / learning is less clear, because in a “learning” there’s no teacher, you’ve all learned something, whereas lesson implies teacher and taught.

I still hate “learning” as a noun though.

Re:Satya Nadella: “I want to use this tactically vs. GOOG/AA... by pclmulqdq on Saturday September 16, 2023 @10:39PM (#37540951)
A lot of the time, a metaphorical lesson has no teacher, too. "Learning" is imported to the tech scene from India, where "a verb-ing" seems to be able to be the noun form of one instance of the verb (in certain contexts).
Re:Satya Nadella: “I want to use this tactically vs. GOOG/AA... by oblio on Sunday September 17, 2023 @04:13AM (#37542704)
It I fall on my butt due to running on ice, nobody really taught me, yet I still learned a lesson :-)