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Re:Game developers turning off all IronSource and Unity Ads ... by paxo on Saturday September 16, 2023 @11:14AM (#37535512)
some of those companies that are at the bottom of this letter, are one of the worst i've ever seen. many of them are known to just copy other indie games, and just heavily monetize them.
Re:Game developers turning off all IronSource and Unity Ads ... by gjsman-1000 on Saturday September 16, 2023 @11:24AM (#37535591)
I looked at those companies and thought, “you wish you were stakeholders.”

Tell me when the developers of Among Us, Pokemon, GRIS, Cuphead, Hollow Knight, Ori, Cities: Skylines, etc. join the letter.

Re:Game developers turning off all IronSource and Unity Ads ... by flutas on Saturday September 16, 2023 @11:31AM (#37535665)
> Tell me when the developers of Stardew Valley, Among Us, Nintendo, etc. join the letter.

You're missing the point entirely. This is for FTP ad supported games, the 2 you mention (of which only one actually uses Unity) are all paid games.

How about the big studios pulling support for Unity:

Massive Monster (Cult of the Lamb): https://twitter.com/MassiveMonster/status/170180856714010263...

Mega Crit (Slay the Spire): https://twitter.com/MegaCrit/status/1702077576209207611

Inner Sloth (HEY LOOK, AMONG US): https://twitter.com/InnerslothDevs/status/170173139849801357...

and plenty of others I'm too lazy to pull up.

Re:Game developers turning off all IronSource and Unity Ads ... by dotnet00 on Saturday September 16, 2023 @11:36AM (#37535706)
Considering that as paid games, none of them have ads in them, I'm not sure what point you're trying to make since they can't meaningfully join in to a boycott of IronSource and Unity ads by virtue of not using them in the first place?
Re:Game developers turning off all IronSource and Unity Ads ... by ncallaway on Saturday September 16, 2023 @11:42AM (#37535781)
This letter is about turning off Unity Ads. From you list, none of the games I’ve played (Among Us, GRIS, Hollow Knight, Ori) use Unity Ads.

Why would they join this letter?

Re:Game developers turning off all IronSource and Unity Ads ... by galleywest200 on Saturday September 16, 2023 @11:26AM (#37535617)
Only Among Us in this list uses Unity.
Re:Game developers turning off all IronSource and Unity Ads ... by gjsman-1000 on Saturday September 16, 2023 @11:28AM (#37535633)
I updated the list. I’m sorry - Stardew Valley is not unity, and “Nintendo” wasn’t specific enough to referring to some of their Pokémon projects. (I also added everything after “Pokémon” in the list after this comment and they all use Unity.)
Re:Game developers turning off all IronSource and Unity Ads ... by astura on Saturday September 16, 2023 @01:47PM (#37536941)
>“Nintendo” wasn’t specific enough to referring to some of their Pokémon projects.

Nintendo does not develop the Pokemon games - Game Freak does.

Nintendo, however, does publish some of the Pokemon games and does partially own the Pokemon IP through The Pokemon Company.

Re:Game developers turning off all IronSource and Unity Ads ... by ykonstant on Saturday September 16, 2023 @11:50AM (#37535855)
I am pretty sure Hollow Knight uses Unity.
Re:Game developers turning off all IronSource and Unity Ads ... by flutas on Saturday September 16, 2023 @11:52AM (#37535871)
He edited his post.

Originally it was "Stardew Valley, Among Us, Nintendo, etc."

Re:Game developers turning off all IronSource and Unity Ads ... by ED_Radish on Saturday September 16, 2023 @12:03PM (#37535971)
Nintendo has used Unity for certain titles. Off the top of my head I can think of the Pokemon Sinnoh remakes, Super Mario Run, I think the fire emblem mobile game too?
Re:Game developers turning off all IronSource and Unity Ads ... by johnnyanmac on Saturday September 16, 2023 @11:38PM (#37541280)
tell you when the (relatively speaking) peanut gallery joins in?

You may not have heard of them but each of these companies have a billion downloads in their portfolio minimum. This is massive that they all rejected this.

Re:Game developers turning off all IronSource and Unity Ads ... by omoikane on Saturday September 16, 2023 @11:48AM (#37535836)
I only recognize one of the company listed, for exactly the same reason you described.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Voodoo_(company)#Criticism

Re:Game developers turning off all IronSource and Unity Ads ... by dgb23 on Saturday September 16, 2023 @01:32PM (#37536799)
To me this seems shameless and of poor taste.
Re:Game developers turning off all IronSource and Unity Ads ... by thih9 on Saturday September 16, 2023 @02:10PM (#37537152)
I looked at hole.io vs donut county. I have played neither. From app store descriptions, hole.io looks like a casual mobile game and donut county seems a polished and complex product, with storyline and quality art.

It reminds me of 2048 vs threes. Thing is, sometimes I prefer a casual game.

The copying is still poor taste, I agree with that. At the same time the titles can be different and respond to different market needs.

I’m not sure what to think of that or about the industry as a whole. Especially since when I searched donut county on the app store, there were more copycats.

Re:Game developers turning off all IronSource and Unity Ads ... by JoeOfTexas on Saturday September 16, 2023 @01:38PM (#37536851)
Funny, because Google denied my Hole genre game that was real multiplayer. Their reason was that it was too similar to Hole.io, which was single player.
Re:Game developers turning off all IronSource and Unity Ads ... by withinboredom on Saturday September 16, 2023 @01:45PM (#37536921)
Is competition not allowed in the marketplace? That seems weird.
Re:Game developers turning off all IronSource and Unity Ads ... by JoeOfTexas on Saturday September 16, 2023 @03:05PM (#37537649)
Voodoo spends big $$ on advertisement. Special treatment.
Re:Game developers turning off all IronSource and Unity Ads ... by MaxikCZ on Saturday September 16, 2023 @04:28PM (#37538405)
Disgusting
Re:Game developers turning off all IronSource and Unity Ads ... by copx on Saturday September 16, 2023 @02:05PM (#37537104)
The interesting part is who is not on the list e.g. HoYoverse.

It has been speculated by many that this is all about Unity Technologies wanting a much larger share of the billion dollar profits of the gatcha games based on Unity.

If all indie devs quit Unity, but HoYoverse (the company behind the money printing press "Genshin Impact") does not, it would still massively increase the profits of Unity Technologies.

Of course because we are literally talking about billions of dollars on the table here HoYoverse & Co will probably all try sueing first.

Re:Game developers turning off all IronSource and Unity Ads ... by johnnyanmac on Saturday September 16, 2023 @11:36PM (#37541268)
From what I heard, Unity China is not actually owned by Unity, and Hoyoverse has a stake in Unity China: https://www.gamesindustry.biz/unity-reportedly-looking-to-se...

So the answer here may legitimately be that Hoyoverse isn't affected by this.

Re:Game developers turning off all IronSource and Unity Ads ... by saladprince on Sunday September 17, 2023 @08:52AM (#37544538)
Why are people so misinformed and spreading misinfo around?

Genshin is using a highly customized Unity Engine bound under Unity China and the developer hoyoverse is a major shareholder in Unity China as well.

Unity China is a separate entity from Unity Technologies.

https://blog.unity.com/news/unity-forms-new-venture-to-manag...