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Re:How the Mac didn’t bring programming to the people by wscp-dev on Saturday September 16, 2023 @05:13AM (#37533237)
I think that all came down to the fact that macs were popular with a certain demographic, and that demographic didn't include many programmers.

I think I will use shortcuts though, it seems like a nifty gui automation tool.

Re:How the Mac didn’t bring programming to the people by KerrAvon on Sunday September 17, 2023 @11:38PM (#37551958)
False; a lot of programmers were interested in the Mac. The Mac had a vibrant developer community for a long time, and the early Mac had a lot of developer tools. It started to die when Windows 3.1 made it viable to ship (ugly) graphical apps on PCs, and it really withered when Windows 95 came out and Apple management at the time basically shrugged. (Windows 95 sucked ass, but consumers were convinced it was a cheap Mac alternative.)
Re:How the Mac didn’t bring programming to the people by spacedcowboy on Saturday September 16, 2023 @11:57AM (#37535909)
I would argue that with all those attempts, Apple did in fact bring programming to the people, but the old adage that you can lead a horse to water but you can’t make it drink would seem to apply…

I also think that the enormous volume of apps in the App Store shows they’re getting a lot of people to code. Those aren’t all mega-corps doing those apps…

Re:How the Mac didn’t bring programming to the people by 7e on Sunday September 17, 2023 @11:34PM (#37551928)
Has anything/anyone brought programming to the people? It’s not a mainstream thing.
Re:How the Mac didn’t bring programming to the people by Javalicious on Monday September 18, 2023 @12:19AM (#37552195)
I'd argue that VB6 got close. But yeah, programming isn't particularly a "the people" sort of activity.
Re:How the Mac didn’t bring programming to the people by AnonC on Monday September 18, 2023 @01:14AM (#37552478)
(dupe) A longer and older discussion from several hours ago is at https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=37546241
Re:How the Mac didn’t bring programming to the people by huksley on Monday September 18, 2023 @01:35AM (#37552584)
Automator and Shortcuts is not programming it is advanced tinkering at best. Not even every developer does this.

I done it once (for adding Finder menu items to convert video and image files to different formats) but it is so cumbersome, I will not do it next time.

If MacOS embraces Unix so much, why i need UI to create extensions? How about just supporting ${HOME}/.finderrc and allow us to make our actions there?

Re:How the Mac didn’t bring programming to the people by hyperjeff on Monday September 18, 2023 @01:44PM (#37559381)
One can create quite sophisticated automator services, definitely living up to the idea of programming. It’s not where I would direct anyone to start learning programming (it’s not meant to do so). It’s easy to underestimate what you can do with it. Unless shell scripting and applescript aren’t programming.