How do people even come up with claims like these?

Any evidence besides you just decided it?

Observation of friends, co-workers, family, and the general public?

I’m a part of general public and I agree. I’d never thought connecting my iphone to pc through a cable because it’s such pita to do so and speeds are absurd for that type of device. All connectivity goes through telegram (thanks to creators for amazing data limits, opposed to email’s 20mb no-exec nonsense).

It’s obvious. Who in this day and age cares about ultra fast usb speeds when their phones are capable of doing it wirelessly?

> Most people never connect a physical cable from their phone to anything but a charger.

Carplay? Or is a cable optional for that? IIRC it was sending some data over the cable because I get promoted for carplay stuff after plugging it in.

I suspect the data transfer requirements of CarPlay can be handled by USB2

Exactly. If you look at YouTube bitrate for a 1080p video, it's 8mbps, which is 1.67% of the theoretical max data rate of USB2 (480mbps), so there's more than enough bandwidth for CarPlay.

Yeah USB3 and greater is really only needed for high res displays and faster large storage.

given that carplay has, until now, been exclusively implemented by devices that don't support USB3, that's a pretty good suspicion

CarPlay is wireless for some brands of car, wired for others.

My Prius has wired carplay (which makes the Qi charger seem absurd, although as it turns out the Qi charger doesn’t work most of the time), so I bought a $50 box that plugs into the USB port and gives me wireless carplay.

Which one did you get? I've been looking to get one recently but have heard that they're kind of a crapshoot and not very polished in UX.

I've got a Quadlock for my Audi and I'm returning it, disconnects often.

I got a generic "ATOTO" one that was on sale. I had to upgrade the firmware since there was some audio stutter after about 15 minutes, but after that it's been just as stable as wired CarPlay for me.

I just got a carlinkit 5.0 and initial impression is that it's working great with very little latency. Can't speak to long term reliability.

Should also mention I bought mine via this deal for $40

https://slickdeals.net/f/16869551-carlinkit-5-0-cpc200-2air-...

As far as "not very polished UX", after connecting it's been nothing but the standard CarPlay interface. The instructions say there's a web UI accessible via wifi where you can install updates or change configuration but I had no need to use it. Just connect with Bluetooth, wait a second, and accept the "Connect to CarPlay" popup.

This is the one I have http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/ASIN/B0B8RKXK9R/donhosek

It’s been in use for a year with not a single issue. I set it up with my phone and have been able to forget about its existence ever since.

Since CarPlay has worked for years over Lightning cables, 2.0 speeds must be sufficient

I was in that camp, but a recent iOS update regressed bluetooth yet again (it skips sometimes in all my cars), so now I’m using the USB iPod support when possible.

This is the first time I’ve ever used data over USB on this phone though. I wish Apple had better testing for their bluetooth stack.

Audio over usb works fine at usb 2 speeds.

Hell, professional audio interfaces from major brands like RME, with full support for 16+ channels simultaneous in/out high rate audio work fine at USB 2.0 speeds.

I was arguing against having any data connection at all (and just fixing the bluetooth stack).

The only port I want at all is a headphone jack, and that’s easily waterproofed. Since we can’t have that, I was hoping they’d remove the charge port entirely.

> Most people never connect a physical cable from their phone to anything but a charger.

This is probably more typical for iOS than Android users, because the former restricts very severely what can be accessed from the connected computer; copying data is much faster via cable.