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Re:Physicists Observe ‘Unobservable’ Quantum Phase Transition by marginalia_nu on Tuesday September 12, 2023 @06:56AM (#37479194)
I took it to refer to the various quantum no-go theorems that prohibit using entaglement as a means to transmit information in a spacelike manner without an accompanying timelike counterpart.

I don't think many physicists will argue they are wrong.

Re:Physicists Observe ‘Unobservable’ Quantum Phase Transition by bowsamic on Tuesday September 12, 2023 @07:02AM (#37479238)
I agree, but that doesn't rule out non-local interactions in general
Re:Physicists Observe ‘Unobservable’ Quantum Phase Transition by kgwgk on Tuesday September 12, 2023 @07:13AM (#37479334)
Depends on the definition of “interaction”.
Re:Physicists Observe ‘Unobservable’ Quantum Phase Transition by bowsamic on Tuesday September 12, 2023 @07:17AM (#37479373)
Two systems affecting each other
Re:Physicists Observe ‘Unobservable’ Quantum Phase Transition by kgwgk on Tuesday September 12, 2023 @07:19AM (#37479400)
Then the non-locality of entanglement doesn’t get you that because it concerns a single system.
Re:Physicists Observe ‘Unobservable’ Quantum Phase Transition by bowsamic on Tuesday September 12, 2023 @07:24AM (#37479438)
Even so, we still call it interaction. And it still raises questions about quantum gravity.
Re:Physicists Observe ‘Unobservable’ Quantum Phase Transition by kgwgk on Tuesday September 12, 2023 @07:32AM (#37479485)
So much for your own definition of “interaction”…
Re:Physicists Observe ‘Unobservable’ Quantum Phase Transition by bowsamic on Tuesday September 12, 2023 @07:36AM (#37479516)
Why are you being rude to me?
Re:Physicists Observe ‘Unobservable’ Quantum Phase Transition by kgwgk on Tuesday September 12, 2023 @07:56AM (#37479697)
That was not my intention.

If there is a non-rude way of conveying the message “when I said that it depends on the definition of interaction you gave me one and then you told me to ignore it” please assume that I had written that instead.

Re:Physicists Observe ‘Unobservable’ Quantum Phase Transition by anotheraccount9 on Tuesday September 12, 2023 @07:47AM (#37479612)
I see what you did there
Re:Physicists Observe ‘Unobservable’ Quantum Phase Transition by marginalia_nu on Tuesday September 12, 2023 @07:48AM (#37479614)
It doesn't rule out non-local interactions as in general we can rule out local non-hidden variables but not global ones.

What these party-pooper theorems do is largely rule out being able to differentiate non-local interactions from local interactions... which doesn't mean they don't exist, but if they do, there's large pieces of the puzzle missing before we can show they do.

Re:Physicists Observe ‘Unobservable’ Quantum Phase Transition by qubex on Tuesday September 12, 2023 @08:00AM (#37479744)
To be perfectly frank, quantum entanglement and wormholes are just the manners in which QFT and GR respectively manifest the concepts of nonlocality. That’s my understanding of the ER=EPR dictum, anyway: physics is fundamentally nonlocal, and these are the means by which the two leading theories express that nonlocality within their own lexicon of information/observation and curvature/trajectories (respectively).
Re:Physicists Observe ‘Unobservable’ Quantum Phase Transition by philipov on Tuesday September 12, 2023 @08:36AM (#37480175)
I think ER=EPR still implies physics is local, but locality is dynamic rather than static. It is a mechanism by which spacetime can be constructed from quantum physics, but all the physics still takes place locally on it.