iPhone 12s can be had for like 250 11s are like 100$ with the right promo

Honestly, its like the best iPhone. Can't understand this obsession with phablets and phones you can use as a ski hill because their cameras are so freakishly large.

To each their own. I certainly understand why the SE is a great phone for many people. For many people, the phone is their primary or only computer, and the size tradeoff makes more sense.

> because their cameras are so freakishly large

But those freakishly large cameras are what makes the tradeoff of a larger device worthwhile for me personally.

This phone’s size is nothing compared to my photography gear. The quality of photo/video I can get means I spend less time lugging the heavy stuff. It’s not a small phone by any means. But then again, I very rarely use it as a phone.

I like to think of it more like a Tricorder/universal computing device than a phone. But that’s just me.

Yeah, if its for photography obviously its a non-issue. I just take issue with the notion that the average user is a photographer for whom such a permanent physical reality is acceptable. Most people don't need their pictures to be "that good" that it justifies the several hundred extra g of weight and awkward physical format demanded to meet those demands.

I take issue with the notion that the average user even feels that extra weight in their pocket or finds the physical format difficult.

OK I don’t really take issue with it but still. I have a small child, I want photos of said child to be good. I care more about that than a little extra weight in my pocket.

Its not the pocket thats the issue, its the holding and using with one's hand(s) ergonomically and without causing long-term issues. Should have been more direct about that.

Also, TouchID for the win (not to unlock phone)