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Re:A Student-Debt Bubble Fueled a Housing Bubble by disgruntledphd2 on Monday September 11, 2023 @05:53AM (#37464981)
Do you have a source for your assertions about the Irish property market? Like, as a landlord in Ireland you'll pay 52% tax on your rental income, and while you can claim tax relief on the interest, it doesn't make a lot of financial sense to borrow relatively expensive money for rentals.

It made a lot more sense 10 years ago, but the data would seem to suggest that it's not a massive driver of sales right now.

Like the Irish property market is insane right now, but I suspect that much more of the rental purchases are driven by small investment companies as that makes much, much more sense from a tax and overall expense purposes.

Re:A Student-Debt Bubble Fueled a Housing Bubble by bombcar on Monday September 11, 2023 @07:19AM (#37465589)
The rental market in the USA for sure is greatly distorted by the people who think there is “guaranteed easy money” to be made. They’re the type who say “mortgage $1500, rent $1600, it’s free real estate.”

Sadly for them, eventually they learn why professional landlords want to see debt service be 50% or less of revenues. And it’s not because they get to pocket 50%.

It’s been covered up because appreciation has been so high as to cover the bad accounting, but a few years of increased rates and near zero appreciation will put the hurt on them - and then watch out!

Re:A Student-Debt Bubble Fueled a Housing Bubble by bilekas on Monday September 11, 2023 @07:23AM (#37465619)
If you're a landlord you're most likely not borrowing large amounts on the properties you're renting out. Its more common that those properties were bought years before when prices were achievable.

There are some good statistics here in the CSO (Central Statistic Office) for Ireland.

https://www.cso.ie/en/releasesandpublications/ep/p-cp1hii/cp...

A bit further down you can find the age gaps between "Outright ownership"

"Figure 3.5 Tenure status by age of householder, 2016" Particularly glaring.

> I suspect that much more of the rental purchases are driven by small investment companies

On this topic, yes for new builds, pretty much investment companies will come in and buy them up prior to being built. This has always been a thing, but is not helping the situation for normal people just looking to buy somewhere to live.