Except they too pushed ads (ubuntu advantage) and snap and other annoying stuff.

Windows: ads in the start menu, candy crush, hey you are trying to install chrome and I don't like that.

Ubuntu: one line message in the terminal about we released <new thing> thing, feel free to try it.

Yeah, basically the same thing.

It's the same thing, just one company has taken it further. I realize this is a slippery slope argument, but when there are countless examples of how this slopes is slippery, I think it's a valid point of contention.

I think it’s a very different thing. The slope doesn’t seem particularly slippery. Choosing to be anti-user in your marketing seems like a form line.

It's not the same thing for the same reason that a shiny billboard for an ad right outside your bedroom window that you can't not see every time you look outside is not the same as a text ad on the first page of a book you want to read.

A text ad on the first page of a book is not a slippery slope to a billboard right outside your window.

I use a Linux terminal everyday. I completely forgot it has any ads at all until reading this thread. I have to put conscious effort to find where the ad is.

It would be impossible for a daily Windows user to forget their OS has ads.

My 2 cents at any rate

I’ve never noticed, which means their “pushing” is at a totally acceptable level.

personally i would recommend zorin os before ubuntu since it has a similar desktop layout to windows or if someone doesnt care about that then pop os is decent as well

Yes, I'm sure it is. But for me, so is Windows and OSX.