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Re:Labeling Beef ‘Low Carbon’ Could Open Premium Market for ... by olix0r on Friday September 08, 2023 @10:31AM (#37433980)
> While the EPA reports the cattle industry in the United States accounts for 2.4% of total greenhouse gas emissions, some consumers are convinced that beef production is a major cause of climate change.

This seems to imply that cutting 2.4% of total greenhouse emissions wouldn’t have an impact on climate change. Motivated reasoning.

Re:Labeling Beef ‘Low Carbon’ Could Open Premium Market for ... by goethes_kind on Friday September 08, 2023 @10:39AM (#37434093)
Every industry is trying to claim that every other industry is THE worrying source of GHG emissions. And every individual points out at the activities of others as being more polluting.

It is all a bit self-serving.

Re:Labeling Beef ‘Low Carbon’ Could Open Premium Market for ... by prasadjoglekar on Friday September 08, 2023 @10:32AM (#37434000)
It wouldn't. Just like manufacturing moving out of the US didn't reduce smoke - it just moved it to China, these cattle will just be raised elsewhere. Except, now a few hundred thousand folks in the US are out of a job.
Re:Labeling Beef ‘Low Carbon’ Could Open Premium Market for ... by taway1237 on Friday September 08, 2023 @10:35AM (#37434040)
Yeah, it reads backwards. 2.4% of total greenhouse emissions just for one kind of food item sounds huge.
Re:Labeling Beef ‘Low Carbon’ Could Open Premium Market for ... by delecti on Friday September 08, 2023 @11:14AM (#37434593)
And just one kind of food from a single country which is only 4.2% of the world's population. That makes beef more than 50% of our "fair share" of emissions.
Re:Labeling Beef ‘Low Carbon’ Could Open Premium Market for ... by jononomo on Friday September 08, 2023 @11:41AM (#37435082)
Isn't it incredible that if we all stopped eating beef then this would have a larger impact on global warming than if we rolled back to a preindustrial age and got rid of trains, airplanes, automobiles, and the construction industry?
Re:Labeling Beef ‘Low Carbon’ Could Open Premium Market for ... by fieldcny on Friday September 08, 2023 @12:40PM (#37435961)
How do you figure?
Re:Labeling Beef ‘Low Carbon’ Could Open Premium Market for ... by vlovich123 on Friday September 08, 2023 @11:25AM (#37434804)
The wording is vague. It’s also possible read as 2.4% of total US emissions, not worldwide. Looking up other sources, it does seem to be 2-3% of total US emissions, not worldwide.
Re:Labeling Beef ‘Low Carbon’ Could Open Premium Market for ... by jncfhnb on Friday September 08, 2023 @11:29AM (#37434871)
US beef is about 21% of all beef. A lot is exported. Fwiw
Re:Labeling Beef ‘Low Carbon’ Could Open Premium Market for ... by uoaei on Friday September 08, 2023 @10:36AM (#37434061)
Yeah this is a tricky ploy to use language in bad faith.

Literally nothing is a "major" cause of climate change. There's so many things contributing to climate change that any one contributor can be made to look small.

The fact that the cattle industry in one country alone contributes to more than 1% of all greenhouse gas emissions is pretty insane in the context of the entire world.

Re:Labeling Beef ‘Low Carbon’ Could Open Premium Market for ... by vlovich123 on Friday September 08, 2023 @11:26AM (#37434810)
2% of emissions within the US, not globally.
Re:Labeling Beef ‘Low Carbon’ Could Open Premium Market for ... by hn8305823 on Friday September 08, 2023 @10:44AM (#37434146)
2.4% by weight or 2.4% of total global warming potential? Methane has a GWP of 30 (CO2=1).

> and if the rancher uses any anti-methane feed additives

If this effort reduces methane emissions in any meaningful way then it's useful.

Re:Labeling Beef ‘Low Carbon’ Could Open Premium Market for ... by polski-g on Friday September 08, 2023 @10:47AM (#37434194)
Are there computations for calories-produced per GWP?

How does beef fare compared to something like turkey?

Re:Labeling Beef ‘Low Carbon’ Could Open Premium Market for ... by hnhg on Friday September 08, 2023 @10:57AM (#37434335)
There is a lot to explore here (emissions per calorie, protein content, etc): https://ourworldindata.org/grapher/ghg-kcal-poore
Re:Labeling Beef ‘Low Carbon’ Could Open Premium Market for ... by hn8305823 on Friday September 08, 2023 @10:55AM (#37434313)
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Greenhouse_gas_emissions

> Ruminant cattle for beef and dairy rank high in greenhouse-gas emissions; monogastric, or pigs and poultry-related foods, are low.

I think it's all about the methane, for which cattle are notorious.

Re:Labeling Beef ‘Low Carbon’ Could Open Premium Market for ... by appleiigs on Friday September 08, 2023 @11:11AM (#37434541)
If you switch to veggies, the 2.4% doesn't go to zero. Veggies have impact too. I think it was 30% reduction (overall, not just certain emissions)? Someone more informed can us know.
Re:Labeling Beef ‘Low Carbon’ Could Open Premium Market for ... by tengbretson on Friday September 08, 2023 @01:32PM (#37436685)
Isn't it wild that the only meat-producing industry that hasn't been completely vertically monopolized by the likes of Tyson or Smithfield gets 100% of the online wrath for its greenhouse gas emissions?
Re:Labeling Beef ‘Low Carbon’ Could Open Premium Market for ... by houseinthesky on Friday September 08, 2023 @09:35PM (#37441318)
1) The beef industry has monopolistic, anti-competitive cartel behavior similar to the chicken industry. https://www.reuters.com/business/how-four-big-companies-cont...

2) Raising cattle has drastically higher emissions of greenhouse gasses than other animals. For instance, looking at the chart here: https://ourworldindata.org/carbon-footprint-food-methane beef is 5x to 10x the emissions of chicken.

By my estimate, the online commentary about beef's contributions to the climate crisis feels pretty correctly proportional to their level of emissions.

Re:Labeling Beef ‘Low Carbon’ Could Open Premium Market for ... by jonny_eh on Friday September 08, 2023 @01:34PM (#37436712)
I wonder what bias the "Cowboy State Daily" has.