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Re:Are Any Words the Same in All Languages? by trvz on Thursday September 07, 2023 @07:38PM (#37427202)
"paradicsom" just goes to show that this article is confidently incorrect:

> Exceptions: Italian uses pomodoro, and some other languages use a word similar to the Italian one. Mandarin Chinese is another exception!

"paradicsom" is not similar to pomodoro, in either pronounciation or meaning.

And if the author has made one so simple mistake, we have to assume there are many more with the more exotic languages.

Re:Are Any Words the Same in All Languages? by qsi on Thursday September 07, 2023 @10:27PM (#37428500)
Another example of this article being confidently wrong about tomato is Czech, where the word used is rajče or rajské jablko, the latter meaning "apple of paradise."
Re:Are Any Words the Same in All Languages? by phreeza on Friday September 08, 2023 @12:15AM (#37429237)
Same in Austrian German (Paradeiser) so perhaps something to do with it the Austro-Hungarian empire.
Re:Are Any Words the Same in All Languages? by qsi on Friday September 08, 2023 @02:03AM (#37429970)
Hm, that's an interesting thought which never occurred to me until now. I didn't know about the Austrian German expression, but paradicsom in Hungarian can mean either tomato or paradise! Please chime in if you're familiar with other languages of the Austro-Hungarian empire.

Edited to add: According to Wikipedia [0], the original Hungarian expression was also "apple of paradise," which then got shortened to just paradiscom. It also points out that the Italian pomodoro is literally "apple of gold." I guess the far-flung origins were thought of as paradisical...

[0] https://hu.wikipedia.org/wiki/Paradicsom_(n%C3%B6v%C3%A9nyfa...

Re:Are Any Words the Same in All Languages? by phreeza on Friday September 08, 2023 @02:09AM (#37430018)
https://64.media.tumblr.com/d6de5bcddb77eae9d76d370e5f62bce7... the "paradise" area seems to roughly align with the extent of the Austro-Hungarian empire.
Re:Are Any Words the Same in All Languages? by rob74 on Friday September 08, 2023 @05:27AM (#37431450)
Yeah, pomodoro means "golden apple", paradicsom/Paradeiser comes from "paradise" (looks like Hungarians really like tomatos!), so nothing in common except that they start with "P" and the countries they are used in are roughly in the same region. Also, in Romanian a tomato is simply a "roșie" ("red") - Romanians apparently like to name fruit by their color, eggplants are called "vinete" ("purples").
Re:Are Any Words the Same in All Languages? by spamtarget on Sunday September 17, 2023 @08:57AM (#37544582)
well, we used to like them, but then the fantastic "long shelf life" variations came...