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Re:Why Meta’s Yann LeCun isn’t buying the AI doomer narrative by peyton on Tuesday September 05, 2023 @05:38PM (#37398124)
I dunno, the most parsimonious explanation for Clinton’s loss is low black voter turnout, which is more a simple failure of her campaign than a nefarious new technology propelling us to extinction.
Re:Why Meta’s Yann LeCun isn’t buying the AI doomer narrative by rumblerock on Tuesday September 05, 2023 @05:55PM (#37398304)
GP didn't state that it was the sole reason for tipping the election.

Clinton dropping the ball, Comey etc. are events I can live with even if I didn't like the result. But a foreign adversary exploiting network effects to manipulate online discourse and propagate misinformation on a large scale – the influence that had will always be an unsettling "what if" in my mind.

Re:Why Meta’s Yann LeCun isn’t buying the AI doomer narrative by peyton on Tuesday September 05, 2023 @06:14PM (#37398513)
I guess, maybe I misinterpreted what “tipped by algorithmic interference” means. Regardless, I just don’t think the world’s going to end if somebody’s uncle in Florida reads dozens of false headlines. A small number of people consume a lot of misinformation. I agree with Yann on LLMs, and I don’t think his work on Facebook invalidates that.
Re:Why Meta’s Yann LeCun isn’t buying the AI doomer narrative by noslenwerdna on Tuesday September 05, 2023 @07:31PM (#37399267)
There has been foreign promoted disinformation since at least the Cold War. Newspapers and Hollywood have propagated conspiracy theories about the JFK assassination that can be traced to soviet disinformation.

There is so much noise online that I really doubt this made any difference

Re:Why Meta’s Yann LeCun isn’t buying the AI doomer narrative by chpatrick on Tuesday September 05, 2023 @08:11PM (#37399620)
The difference is that thanks to Google and Facebook you can now do it on an industrial scale. It's like comparing an iPhone to two tin cans connected with a string.

The Hungarian government is also using ads to brainwash people very effectively here. You can't watch a YouTube video without seeing some kind of propaganda.

Re:Why Meta’s Yann LeCun isn’t buying the AI doomer narrative by rcxdude on Wednesday September 06, 2023 @05:13AM (#37402861)
Not to mention the real power of targeting: there's even less need for a coherent narrative, you can tailor it to each niche group (or even potentially each individual, at this point). And other's don't even know what your message is. If a lie could previously travel around the world before the truth had got its boots on, a lie can now travel around the world before the truth even knows there's a race.
Re:Why Meta’s Yann LeCun isn’t buying the AI doomer narrative by nojito on Tuesday September 05, 2023 @06:19PM (#37398568)
Re:Why Meta’s Yann LeCun isn’t buying the AI doomer narrative by peyton on Thursday September 07, 2023 @04:37PM (#37425222)
That’s the first in a series of articles. The next article in the series states:

> the regression … can explain the Electoral College drop-off Clinton experienced relative to Obama based on some simple demographic variables and the 2012 vote alone.

Re:Why Meta’s Yann LeCun isn’t buying the AI doomer narrative by cameldrv on Tuesday September 05, 2023 @07:20PM (#37399142)
It was a very close election. There are any number of things, that, had they been different, Clinton would have won. Trying to ascribe a single cause is fallacious.