Re:Ask HN: I’m an FCC Commissioner proposing regulation of I...
by dboreham on Tuesday September 05, 2023 @11:39AM
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99% of users don't know their iot devices have firmware nor that it can be updated.
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Re:Ask HN: I’m an FCC Commissioner proposing regulation of I...
by computerfriend on Tuesday September 05, 2023 @11:41AM
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Maybe that figure would change if the firmware could indeed be updated.
Re:Ask HN: I’m an FCC Commissioner proposing regulation of I...
by NegativeK on Tuesday September 05, 2023 @12:06PM
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It would change, but again -- it wouldn't be appreciable.
Security policy is needed that accounts for the behaviors of the vast majority of users.
Re:Ask HN: I’m an FCC Commissioner proposing regulation of I...
by Larrikin on Tuesday September 05, 2023 @01:00PM
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Users update their phones, there's no reason they can't be educated to update their other devices
Re:Ask HN: I’m an FCC Commissioner proposing regulation of I...
by NegativeK on Tuesday September 05, 2023 @01:36PM
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Most non-technical users that I know don't actively update their phones and push back when I tell them that they need to do so faster than the automatic process because of an actively exploited vulnerability.
Re:Ask HN: I’m an FCC Commissioner proposing regulation of I...
by CameronNemo on Tuesday September 05, 2023 @12:11PM
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They may have trusted family members, friends, or neighbors who they feel comfortable allowing the management of their internet connected devices.
Re:Ask HN: I’m an FCC Commissioner proposing regulation of I...
by charcircuit on Tuesday September 05, 2023 @12:35PM
(#37394234)
No. As long as their iot device is still working consumers could care less about security updates.
Re:Ask HN: I’m an FCC Commissioner proposing regulation of I...
by CameronNemo on Tuesday September 05, 2023 @12:50PM
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What do you mean by "no"? Are you denying the existence of my grandparents who trust me to manage their devices?
Re:Ask HN: I’m an FCC Commissioner proposing regulation of I...
by navigate8310 on Tuesday September 05, 2023 @01:20PM
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This approach may function effectively with your close family members. However, it can sometimes fail when your cousins won't let you near their IoT devices because they view you as the hacker or tech enthusiast who might tamper with their gadgets.
Re:Ask HN: I’m an FCC Commissioner proposing regulation of I...
by CameronNemo on Tuesday September 05, 2023 @01:29PM
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So what? Just because there are some atypical people doesn't make it a "no".
Re:Ask HN: I’m an FCC Commissioner proposing regulation of I...
by charcircuit on Tuesday September 05, 2023 @02:58PM
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I am saying that people like you are not enough to help the 99% of people who have an iot product.
Re:Ask HN: I’m an FCC Commissioner proposing regulation of I...
by CameronNemo on Tuesday September 05, 2023 @03:51PM
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Apart from Smart TVs, most people don't have an IoT device to begin with.
Re:Ask HN: I’m an FCC Commissioner proposing regulation of I...
by i_am_jl on Tuesday September 05, 2023 @06:30PM
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Smart speakers, printers, thermostats, light bulbs, security cameras, door bells, locks, smartwatches, TV sticks...
Re:Ask HN: I’m an FCC Commissioner proposing regulation of I...
by CameronNemo on Wednesday September 06, 2023 @01:50AM
(#37401707)
I don't count a watch as an IoT device. And most on the market are Apple devices.
Apart from printers and smart TVs, less than half of US households have any of those other devices.
https://www.statista.com/statistics/1124290/smart-home-devic...
Anecdotally, most people I know who own those devices are the more technically inclined. Especially the thermostats and light bulbs. Even the doorbell surveillance networks have low penetration.