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Re:Nearlyfreespeech.net Bigger, better, faster, more by Animats on Sunday September 03, 2023 @07:45PM (#37375725)
OK, it's a shared web hosting service, but with metered everything rather than flat-billing. Is this a win over HostGator, DreamHost, etc.?
Re:Nearlyfreespeech.net Bigger, better, faster, more by AndrewKemendo on Sunday September 03, 2023 @07:54PM (#37375791)
Yes.

I've been hosting on NFSN exclusively for anything that I don't need google scale DNS/infra for or GPU workloads and it's a dream....mostly cause they keep everything basically unchanged since when I started doing computers (which is why this is a big deal post).

They care about the basic internet principles of freedom (like speech!) above all else, have the best customer support by far, and at basically the best prices.

No you're not going to get GPGPU workloads here but that's ok

Re:Nearlyfreespeech.net Bigger, better, faster, more by iamcalledrob on Sunday September 03, 2023 @07:55PM (#37375803)
Sure, their offering (in terms of features) is similar to most other shared hosting services.

But what I like is that they've consistently been no-nonsense, super fairly priced, and aren't condescending to technically competent people.

Sure, I could do this myself, but sometimes you just want to get a website online and have someone else worry about hosting it.

Re:Nearlyfreespeech.net Bigger, better, faster, more by tomxor on Sunday September 03, 2023 @09:18PM (#37376236)
> Sure, I could do this myself, but sometimes you just want to get a website online and have someone else worry about hosting it.

Exactly, I run numerous systems at the VPS level, the OS, the libraries, the databases, the applications, the replication, the automation of all that, as part of my day job... but that's big production stuff with big production requirements. If I want to throw up a small static site (or even simple non static site), and forget about it, NFS is the place to go.

That the UI is exactly the same each time I login, even with years in between, is a huge feature, especially in the mess of UI/UX churn madness that is the rest of the web. NFS is the only shared host that is fair and trustworthy, and that is part aligned incentives, part being run by awesome human beings.

Re:Nearlyfreespeech.net Bigger, better, faster, more by op00to on Sunday September 03, 2023 @07:58PM (#37375826)
I have a web site that’s been on nfs since 2006. It’s sparsely accessed but I want to keep it online. I loaded $25 and it lasted a REALLY long time. Like 10 years! I monitor the site and really don’t record much downtime. It just works without thinking.
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Re:Nearlyfreespeech.net Bigger, better, faster, more by jiofj on Sunday September 03, 2023 @08:07PM (#37375883)
I read it as... 20 years ago we were the ones being censored so we created a free speech hosting. But now that it's our side doing the censorship, we're not so sure anymore.
Re:Nearlyfreespeech.net Bigger, better, faster, more by seattle_spring on Sunday September 03, 2023 @09:19PM (#37376247)
You should probably try reading it again, because the point seems to have flown over your head
Re:Nearlyfreespeech.net Bigger, better, faster, more by temp12192021 on Sunday September 03, 2023 @09:39PM (#37376370)
Agreed- They're going to capitulate to law enforcement without a court order if they don't like your politics... or if it's inconvenient for them.
Re:Nearlyfreespeech.net Bigger, better, faster, more by dang on Sunday September 03, 2023 @10:28PM (#37376578)
Could you please stop posting in the flamewar style to HN, regardless of how wrong someone is or you feel they are? It's not what this site is for, and destroys what it is for.

https://news.ycombinator.com/newsguidelines.html

Re:Nearlyfreespeech.net Bigger, better, faster, more by temp12192021 on Sunday September 03, 2023 @09:26PM (#37376285)
> When we cooperate with law enforcement, we do not do so blindly. We review their activities, both for abuse of power and to make sure proper processes are followed to protect our members’ rights. Such things are vanishingly rare, not (as they are sometimes depicted) the default. So if you’re expecting that we will automatically say, “Shove it, coppah!” anytime the police come calling about your site, we’re not the right service for you.

They're going to capitulate to law enforcement without a court order if they don't like your politics... or if it's inconvenient for them.

Re:Nearlyfreespeech.net Bigger, better, faster, more by Terr_ on Sunday September 03, 2023 @08:09PM (#37375902)
I don't see how what you linked-to establishes "TDS."
Re:Nearlyfreespeech.net Bigger, better, faster, more by seattle_spring on Sunday September 03, 2023 @09:18PM (#37376234)
“TDS” is a prime example of a “thought terminating cliche” [1]. Certain people don’t have any real arguments of substance, so anytime someone criticizes their hero, they cry “TDS!!”, as if it someone discredits the other person’s argument. You’ll see similar stuff posted against criticisms of Elon Musk, where people will claim that it’s only because “he goes against the hive mind.”

It’s an incredibly lazy, unintelligible way of arguing, but alas…

[1] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Thought-terminating_cliché

Re:Nearlyfreespeech.net Bigger, better, faster, more by temp12192021 on Sunday September 03, 2023 @09:20PM (#37376251)
“thought terminating cliche” is itself a thought terminating cliche.

An incredibly lazy, unintelligible way of arguing, but alas…

Re:Nearlyfreespeech.net Bigger, better, faster, more by dang on Sunday September 03, 2023 @10:31PM (#37376591)
Could you please stop posting in the flamewar style to HN, regardless of how wrong someone is or you feel they are? It's not what this site is for, and destroys what it is for.

https://news.ycombinator.com/newsguidelines.html

Re:Nearlyfreespeech.net Bigger, better, faster, more by temp12192021 on Sunday September 03, 2023 @09:33PM (#37376328)
> When we cooperate with law enforcement, we do not do so blindly. We review their activities, both for abuse of power and to make sure proper processes are followed to protect our members’ rights. Such things are vanishingly rare, not (as they are sometimes depicted) the default. So if you’re expecting that we will automatically say, “Shove it, coppah!” anytime the police come calling about your site, we’re not the right service for you.

They're going to capitulate to law enforcement without a court order if they don't like your politics... or if it's inconvenient for them.

Re:Nearlyfreespeech.net Bigger, better, faster, more by Terr_ on Monday September 04, 2023 @02:04AM (#37377595)
Them: "Stop expecting us to give you special treatment or shielding beyond what we do for all customers."

You: "They're threatening to discriminate against people who like the ex-President!"