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Re:Doing Laundry on Campus Without a Phone by Dalewyn on Saturday September 02, 2023 @04:48AM (#37359635)
>unless I want to buy and carry around an extra phone for completely bullshit reasons

Owning a separate, dedicated piece of hardware for sensitive and critical activities (eg: banking) is a very good idea because it isolates them from all your other mundane, potentially risky activities.

Most people don't do this because of the various inconveniences and expenses involved, but if you can tolerate them it's about as safe as digital activities can get.

Re:Doing Laundry on Campus Without a Phone by exec1 on Saturday September 02, 2023 @05:41AM (#37359952)
It doesn’t take much effort to remain relatively safe on the internet so you don’t have to resort to dedicated hardware just for banking. Don’t install sketchy apps that you don’t need and stop clicking on every link that you see – that’s pretty much it. I found that this basic internet hygiene has a nice side benefit as well – it forms a habit of avoiding superfluous and/or crappy content altogether.
Re:Doing Laundry on Campus Without a Phone by smeej on Saturday September 02, 2023 @06:53AM (#37360305)
"Relatively" is itself a relative term.

You might be fine having apps as closely tied to your real identity as your banking app on a device that's constantly collecting location and other data about you, but privacy is important to some other people.

Re:Doing Laundry on Campus Without a Phone by smeej on Saturday September 02, 2023 @06:50AM (#37360290)
I did get a dedicated device specifically for banking apps. I installed GrapheneOS with sandboxes Google Play Services.

The banking apps still won't work. They insist on some signal from a SIM card "for my security," and I'm not willing to put a SIM card in a device that won't ever leave my house.

Re:Doing Laundry on Campus Without a Phone by newsclues on Saturday September 02, 2023 @07:35AM (#37360547)
Yeah, you could get an iPhone or android and use either as a dedicated banking phone.

The banks are creating their own requirements for how to access their app.

Just like some users are creating their own requirements.

Both parties seem to be content to be apart of the problem and blame the other.

Re:Doing Laundry on Campus Without a Phone by volent on Saturday September 02, 2023 @07:57AM (#37360675)
I don't understand, what's the point of having a dedicated mobile device to access banking services at home?

Why not a computer?

Re:Doing Laundry on Campus Without a Phone by vikramkr on Saturday September 02, 2023 @08:32AM (#37360924)
Because sometimes you want to check banking services on the go. Or you get a notification on your email and want to open the app to check. Or it's much quicker to log in with fingerprint. Or so you can quickly zelle someone on the go. Or because why do you want to go and pull out our computer and turn it on and log in and waste all that time when you have mobile computer in your pocket that's always on and always connected and not in your backpack in the corner somewhere. I know a lot of people who only have a work laptop and use their phone for everything else.
Re:Doing Laundry on Campus Without a Phone by kingaillas on Saturday September 02, 2023 @11:07AM (#37362180)
Some banking feature are only accessible via mobile phone - e.g. check deposit.
Re:Doing Laundry on Campus Without a Phone by ghaff on Saturday September 02, 2023 @11:40AM (#37362495)
That's the only one I know of at my bank that's mobile only. (And for how frequently I deposit checks, going to an ATM wouldn't be a big deal.) I realize other banks may have more de-featured web sites.
Re:Doing Laundry on Campus Without a Phone by fn-mote on Saturday September 02, 2023 @11:59AM (#37362690)
My bank (or Zelle) removed the ability to send money to an individual from the web interface. You have to use the smartphone app.
Re:Doing Laundry on Campus Without a Phone by tomohawk on Saturday September 02, 2023 @08:13AM (#37360804)
A device with required connectivity to network, built in eavesdropping and tracking - that hardly qualifies as dedicated to sensitive and critical actities.
Re:Doing Laundry on Campus Without a Phone by mihaaly on Saturday September 02, 2023 @08:33AM (#37360927)
It is even better idea if it is not a smartphone at all but a dedicated simple security device! Smartphones are a constant security risk alone!!

I had multitudes of non-smartphone based security devices in my life, cheap and dedicated small secure things, but those are endangered species now regrettably.