> PoDL is substantially lighter, smaller, and simpler (though not necessarily cheaper) at 1 Gb than at 100 Mb,
This was one of those wonderful "oh of course" points for me: when you read something and it's blindingly obvious, but until reading it my intuition pointed the other way (easier to deal with lower frequencies rather than unnecessarily high data rates).
PoDL = Power over Data Line. I guess this is similar but incompatible to PoE.
Re:A deep dive into Single Pair Ethernet
by addaon on Friday September 01, 2023 @12:55PM
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Similar in purpose, extremely different in implementation, since PoE-supporting Ethernets (e.g. 100base-TX) are magnetically coupled, but PoDL-supporting Ethernets (e.g. 100base-T1) are capacitively coupled.
Re:A deep dive into Single Pair Ethernet
by monocasa on Friday September 01, 2023 @01:51PM
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I mean, isolation transformers like in regular amd PoE Ethernet are a form of capacitive coupling.
Re:A deep dive into Single Pair Ethernet
by unsung on Friday September 01, 2023 @07:33PM
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The windings in isolation transformers are inductively coupled through the magnetic field in the core. There's often a shield between the two windings to reduce any capacitive coupling.
The industry standard for SPE is moving towards a transformer as well, because to get 1,5kV in isolation from a capacitor requires large components. A transformer is a lot smaller and provides common mode rejection.
1) PoDL is substantially lighter, smaller, and simpler (though not necessarily cheaper) at 1 Gb than at 100 Mb, due to the increased frequency separation. Just like with other Ethernet protocols, the lowest frequency of comms is basically DC; it's only statistically brought above that by the scrambler, but there's no useful true lower bound. Having an order of magnitude more separation, such as it is, allows a more reasonably sized filter to stomp over less (ideally, approximately none) of the data.
2) Only the 1 Gb protocol includes FEC, 100 Mb is a simpler, non-error-correcting encoding. This means that even though the maximum frequency on the twisted pair goes up by an order of magnitude to ~660 MHz, requiring better cabling, better twist spacing, etc... it allows a "sloppier" job at both high and low frequencies, since the FEC really does hide a few errors. This can be spent on even worse filters for PoDL, on frequency-specific interference (e.g. an RF amp running nearby), etc.
Basically, I was surprised to find that 1 Gb was not only not more challenging at the system design level, it was often simpler. (I haven't played with 10 Mb in either of its two incarnations seriously yet.)