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Re:Intel Shows 8 Core 528 Thread Processor with Silicon Phot... by matt3210 on Tuesday August 29, 2023 @08:34PM (#37316101)
8 cores with 528 thread? What’s the math? I assumed 512 but had to reread it
Re:Intel Shows 8 Core 528 Thread Processor with Silicon Phot... by elromulous on Tuesday August 29, 2023 @08:35PM (#37316111)
From the article:

Here is an interesting one. Intel has a 66-thread-per-core processor with 8 cores in a socket (528 threads?) The cache apparently is not well used due to the workload. This is a RISC ISA not x86.

Re:Intel Shows 8 Core 528 Thread Processor with Silicon Phot... by bhouston on Tuesday August 29, 2023 @08:39PM (#37316143)
I guess it is like a GPU where you have so many threads that it hides pretty much all the memory latency?
Re:Intel Shows 8 Core 528 Thread Processor with Silicon Phot... by dekhn on Tuesday August 29, 2023 @08:53PM (#37316252)
Re:Intel Shows 8 Core 528 Thread Processor with Silicon Phot... by syspec on Tuesday August 29, 2023 @09:30PM (#37316543)
50 shades of Cray
Re:Intel Shows 8 Core 528 Thread Processor with Silicon Phot... by tgtweak on Tuesday August 29, 2023 @08:37PM (#37316123)
66 per core does seem a bit odd! maybe 2 are for routing/metadata or something.
Re:Intel Shows 8 Core 528 Thread Processor with Silicon Phot... by wging on Tuesday August 29, 2023 @08:36PM (#37316115)
"8-core processor with 66 threads per core." 66*8 = 528. Why 66 is not explained.
Re:Intel Shows 8 Core 528 Thread Processor with Silicon Phot... by teruakohatu on Tuesday August 29, 2023 @08:42PM (#37316169)
Maybe they just couldn't fit 67?
Re:Intel Shows 8 Core 528 Thread Processor with Silicon Phot... by loeg on Tuesday August 29, 2023 @09:03PM (#37316338)
Maybe 2 higher-powered primary threads + 64 aux threads or something. I don't know how that makes sense as part of a single core but I don't have a better guess.
Re:Intel Shows 8 Core 528 Thread Processor with Silicon Phot... by wmf on Tuesday August 29, 2023 @09:21PM (#37316468)
That's what it is, as shown on slide 6 (Die Architecture). Personally I would call this 16 big cores and 32 throughput cores but for some reason Intel is calling it 8 cores.
Re:Intel Shows 8 Core 528 Thread Processor with Silicon Phot... by lambda on Tuesday August 29, 2023 @09:24PM (#37316498)
Yes it is. They have four 16 thread pipelines, and two single thread pipelines per core. 4*16=64 and 64+2=66
Re:Intel Shows 8 Core 528 Thread Processor with Silicon Phot... by mattashii on Wednesday August 30, 2023 @03:33AM (#37318797)
So, why do they consider that 1 core? Isn't that more like a "compute complex" of multiple cores, as seen on zen 2, but with different core architectures attached instead of 4 cores of the same design?
Re:Intel Shows 8 Core 528 Thread Processor with Silicon Phot... by Symmetry on Wednesday August 30, 2023 @09:06AM (#37321505)
I'd be inclined to call them multiple cores myself, but if they all share the same pipe to main memory that would be a plausible reason to call them all the same core.
Re:Intel Shows 8 Core 528 Thread Processor with Silicon Phot... by adrianmonk on Tuesday August 29, 2023 @09:59PM (#37316741)
Look at slide 6, "Die Architecture" (https://www.servethehome.com/wp-content/uploads/2023/08/Inte...).

The diagram shows 8 gray boxes (in 2 columns of 4). Each gray box is a core.

Above that is a detailed view of what each core looks like. There's a middle section labeled "Crossbar", and above that are 3 boxes labeled STP, MTP, and MTP. Below that are another 3 identical boxes. So each core has 4x MTPs and 2x STP.

What are those? The text of the same slide says MTP is "Multi-Threaded Pipelines" with "16 threads per pipeline" and STP is "Single-Threaded Pipelines" with (self-evidently) 1 thread per pipeline.

And 4 * 16 + 2 * 1 = 66, so 66 threads per core.

Re:Intel Shows 8 Core 528 Thread Processor with Silicon Phot... by Patrick-STH on Tuesday August 29, 2023 @11:35PM (#37317360)
Good one. These presentations are like 30 min each so it is hard to stay on top of all of them.
Re:Intel Shows 8 Core 528 Thread Processor with Silicon Phot... by adrian_b on Wednesday August 30, 2023 @03:18AM (#37318695)
66 = 64 slow GPU-like threads + 2 very fast CPU-like threads
Re:Intel Shows 8 Core 528 Thread Processor with Silicon Phot... by two_in_one on Wednesday August 30, 2023 @03:18AM (#37318692)
It's simple: 528 = 8 * (2 +64),

where 2 is number of slow threads, like current CPU,

and 64 are more like GPU threads.

This architecture could be next step in GPU integration. Hope they manage to write efficient implementation for standard math libs. It could be faster than separate CPU+GPU in one package.

Re:Intel Shows 8 Core 528 Thread Processor with Silicon Phot... by dan-robertson on Wednesday August 30, 2023 @07:04AM (#37320198)
I think it’s 2 fast threads that anre like normal cpu core threads (ooo, etc) and 64 simpler threads that are expected to be mostly waiting on ram.