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Re:For many home-schoolers, parents are no longer doing the ... by ryandrake on Saturday August 26, 2023 @01:39PM (#37274993)
Is public school really that cruel these days? I have a 10 year old, and everyone in her class seems so wholesome and... exceedingly tolerant for lack of a better phrase. Compared to when I was a 10 year old where public school was a Lord Of The Flies thunderdome with bullying, and shoving people into lockers, and fights, and in-groups and out-groups and nerds vs. jocks, all the cruel 80s stereotypes.

I see absolutely zero need to pull her out. The academics are ok--not what an expensive private school might offer, but they track well with what I was learning at that age. The social/institutional environment is much better than when I was a kid.

The few parents I know who homeschool (admittedly, mostly from my wife's church group) do so for religious separatism reasons, not for educational outcome. They object to public school on ideological grounds and perceived "indoctrination," not on the academics.

Re:For many home-schoolers, parents are no longer doing the ... by ufmace on Saturday August 26, 2023 @01:56PM (#37275170)
It's probably impossible to generalize among all public schools. Some are and some aren't to various degrees depending on a thousand factors. The problem is more like, how do you realize if a particular public school class is bad and what are your practical options once you do.
Re:For many home-schoolers, parents are no longer doing the ... by mythrwy on Saturday August 26, 2023 @02:08PM (#37275303)
I don't know about today and don't have kids. This was in the late 70's/ 80's. It was as you say, Lord of The Flies indeed. Good to hear maybe it has improved. Or maybe the bullying is all online now.

I'd like to point out, 10 years old isn't really in the thick of it yet. Might rethink your statement say, Junior year of high school.

Re:For many home-schoolers, parents are no longer doing the ... by NoMoreNicksLeft on Saturday August 26, 2023 @02:25PM (#37275486)
> Is public school really that cruel these days?

This is a good question, but how am I supposed to find out the answer with any real certainty short of exposing my kids to it? Not really a sane option. "Hey, kiddo, go dance on the minefield and see if there are any left" isn't my style of parenting.

> Sure, there's the occasional story of extreme bullying that happens to make the news, but it seems like these are far outliers these days.

It's quite possible that the extremes are just the ones that make the news. The low-intensity torment is in my opinion just as traumatizing, but unless some parent raises a big stink about it then it usually doesn't even rise to the level of neighborhood gossip.

Re:For many home-schoolers, parents are no longer doing the ... by 1123581321 on Saturday August 26, 2023 @06:39PM (#37277543)
Still lots of problems (more in middle and high school) but it’s easier to today to discover and move to where the schools are better. Homeschooling in areas with poor public schools tends to be focused on academics and a better environment although the desire to provide religious education exists everywhere. An area where few homeschooling families exist would probably have high graduation rates and low crime rates in its public schools.
Re:For many home-schoolers, parents are no longer doing the ... by anon291 on Sunday August 27, 2023 @10:08AM (#37282866)
Excessive tolerance is a form of cruelty.