Dystopian is not always imaginative, however most of the time people assume it is. It's just a negative adjective.

dystopia /dɪsˈtəʊpɪə/ noun an imagined state or society in which there is great suffering or injustice, typically one that is totalitarian or post-apocalyptic.

Guess that must be an old definition from back before we lived in one?

Imaginative != imagined

fun fact, I was typing "imaginary" but got auto-corrected

Why insist that everything is fine while the house burns down around you?

Who said anything is fine? It's both more evocative and more effective to recognize reality as reality than to insist that it's fantasy.

Although one definition of dystopia is specifically about imaginary future states, this is not the only connotation for the word. I would hazard to say that most people would understand you perfectly if you said "we are living in a dystopia," without believing you were trying to say we are living in a fantasy land.

Dystopia does not mean fantasy

Are Dystopias only fictional?

> Dystopian? It's literally just plain capitalism in regular reality. Why insist it's something imaginary?

Maybe because plain capitalism in regular reality is pretty dystopian. Nothing imaginary about it.

What makes a spokesperson lying “capitalism?” One can think of lying spokespersons like good ol’ Baghdad Bob operating outside of a business context.

.. the person responding merged the thoughts ("the company spokesperson said A" + "screenshots show company doing B" ) + (the reason the company did that is $SYSTEM + the reason the spokesporson said that is $SYSTEM)

this is actually a known problem in cognitive psych; the person writing did not sufficiently break up the parts. An incomplete thought chain or lazy thinking results in this kind of merged result all the time.

Buddhist psychology for one, has a lot to say about the nature of this kind of lack of clarity in general.

Nobody ascribed a cause to anything. My only point is that it's reality, not imagination.

People just making shit up is also a known problem in cognitive psychology. Very interesting stuff.

67% of cognitive psychology is made up on the spot! The rest is made up in other places.

>> It's literally just plain capitalism in regular reality.

> Nobody ascribed a cause to anything.

.... those two statements contradict directly... followed by scatology..

I think you’re really misunderstanding the context in which the word dystopian is used here. It’s just a negative adjective. No one is saying this is imagination.

The College Board is a financial scam (https://www.therealcollegeboard.org/) but arguably its flaws aren't technically Capitalist. Facebook and TikTok are, though. There's no reason for a school test-taking website to partner with Facebook and TikTok accept because these companies are providing some service (of dubious value, like College Board itself!) to drive their own profit. https://www.therealcollegeboard.org/

The College Board is a perfectly legal enterprise, and how could you know their reasons for how they do things? Besides, they are a "not-for-profit" organization so we know for a fact that they don't want profit.

Because in their opinion, anything bad I'm the world can just be reduced to one problem. Their pet critique of economic philosophy.

Definitely. I want to live in one of those non-capitalist countries, where they don't track people. The names of these countries escape me at the moment.

It's funny to try to accuse someone else of living in fantasy while pushing a fantastical notion of what capitalism is.